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jpvanderwerf2001
Joined: 02 Oct 2003 Posts: 1117 Location: New York
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:03 am Post subject: Russian crackdown on private tutors |
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I've heard through the grapevine that a crackdown on private tutors is taking place. From my information, those who are teaching privately are required to register with the tax authorities and pay taxes accordingly.
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Kootvela

Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 513 Location: Lithuania
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:15 am Post subject: Re: Russian crackdown on private tutors |
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jpvanderwerf2001 wrote: |
I've heard through the grapevine that a crackdown on private tutors is taking place. From my information, those who are teaching privately are required to register with the tax authorities and pay taxes accordingly.
Anyone? |
Though this is a post in the Russian forum, I'll add my two cents from a neighbouring Lithuania. The situation here is the same in terms of legal and illegal work: private tutors have to be registered and pay tax. Tax avoidance is punished by law. Also, registered tutors can write receipts and therefore can be employed by companies who would pay better money than just individual students. Registering also grants free medical care.
What do you mean by 'crackdown'? Are teachers being visited by the tax inspection officers? |
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jpvanderwerf2001
Joined: 02 Oct 2003 Posts: 1117 Location: New York
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 8:40 am Post subject: |
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Yes, I've heard that tax inspectors will be paying more visits to people they suspect are tutoring illegally. My guess is this constitutes a good percentage of those teaching English in Russia. For me, personally, this isn't such a big deal; however, I do know quite a few teachers who make most of their monthly coin under the table.
My question is: Is this a new "crackdown"? Or has this been ongoing and I simply didn't know anything about it? |
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Kootvela

Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 513 Location: Lithuania
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 9:05 am Post subject: |
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jpvanderwerf2001 wrote: |
Yes, I've heard that tax inspectors will be paying more visits to people they suspect are tutoring illegally. My guess is this constitutes a good percentage of those teaching English in Russia. For me, personally, this isn't such a big deal; however, I do know quite a few teachers who make most of their monthly coin under the table.
My question is: Is this a new "crackdown"? Or has this been ongoing and I simply didn't know anything about it? |
I suspect tax inspection acts on information. They must know the name, the place and the fact before they visit, so there must be somebody who informs them which people tutor illegally. It might be tax inspectors acting as mock students trying to catch illegally working people. |
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maruss
Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 1145 Location: Cyprus
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Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:49 pm Post subject: Breaking the law? |
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Everyone knows that people breaking the law in Russia is part of daily routine(even their new president already said that dealing with it is one of his top priorities!)There are so many thousands of laws that it would be impossible to obey them all so the question is which ones can you risk breaking and at what cost,usually financial!'Moonlighting' is a common practice in many other countries too, but as the visa rules in Russia have now been tightened-up it is much more difficult for foreigners to stay there and do any kind of work for more than 90 days at a time,not forgetting that you then have to leave for a minimum of 90 days before you can go back again!Of course if you do manage to get a residency visa and work permit etc. then you could still theoritically still do extra private work'on the side' and whether you are caught by the tax people would depend on many factors,luck being one of them! |
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BELS
Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 402 Location: Moscow
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:39 pm Post subject: For teachers who have a legal contract. |
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First of all, it always has been illegal to teach privately without informing the tax authority. It's illegal to work at all, period.Unless you hvae the right to work in the first. With a business or personal visa you have no right to work.
Now if you are talking about teachers who have a legal work contract from a legal licensed school, you still have no right to work apart from with your employer. However I can't see that stopping any teacher from doing a bit of private work on the side to boost up their measly income.
It didn't stop them in the past, and I can't imagine that they will stop doing it now or in the future. |
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BELS
Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 402 Location: Moscow
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:48 pm Post subject: Fr fulltime private teachers |
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As a fulltime private teacher, you must have at least temporary residency here, and then you must register at the local tax office as an entrepeneur.
Yu will get your personal stamp for stamping receipt and invoices to corporate companies, or to schools of whom you are charging for your freelance teaching services.
To tell you the truth, freelancing is also illegal for most teachers, but for the moment it doesn't stop even the most reputable schools doing it on a cash basis. The problem is that if caught, that scool will be fined much more than you as a teacher, and their license might be taken away from them. |
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BELS
Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 402 Location: Moscow
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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jpvanderwerf2001 wrote: |
Yes, I've heard that tax inspectors will be paying more visits to people they suspect are tutoring illegally. My guess is this constitutes a good percentage of those teaching English in Russia. For me, personally, this isn't such a big deal; however, I do know quite a few teachers who make most of their monthly coin under the table.
My question is: Is this a new "crackdown"? Or has this been ongoing and I simply didn't know anything about it? |
Do you have residency and an entrepeneurs license, or is there another way.
Apart from being a company with a licensed scool of course. |
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maruss
Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 1145 Location: Cyprus
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:53 pm Post subject: My advice to everyone:listen to Bels! |
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You will not find a better informed ex-pat teacher in Russia and beng married to a Russian he is a resident and therefore knows about regulations etc.
What he has just written was told to me a couple of years by the director of a certain school in northern Moscow whose name suggests nice weather and whose location suggests travel!(Old hands in Moscow will have no trouble working out which place I am talking about!) |
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Kootvela

Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 513 Location: Lithuania
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 1:29 pm Post subject: Re: Fr fulltime private teachers |
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BELS wrote: |
As a fulltime private teacher, you must have at least temporary residency here, and then you must register at the local tax office as an entrepeneur.
Yu will get your personal stamp for stamping receipt and invoices to corporate companies, or to schools of whom you are charging for your freelance teaching services.
To tell you the truth, freelancing is also illegal for most teachers, but for the moment it doesn't stop even the most reputable schools doing it on a cash basis. The problem is that if caught, that scool will be fined much more than you as a teacher, and their license might be taken away from them. |
That is absolutely right. There should be an understanding that paying taxes is everybody's care because they go to what matters: schools, hospitals, police, etc. I have to keep my rates high as I have to pay taxes and want to have some income next to that but there are many teachers who offer half the price because they take cash udner the table and in this way they undercut my rates, plus distort the market. Then I get weird calls from people wanting to study for peanuts just because their friend has a teacher who charges peanuts! |
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BELS
Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 402 Location: Moscow
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 1:47 pm Post subject: Re: Fr fulltime private teachers |
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Kootvela wrote: |
BELS wrote: |
As a fulltime private teacher, you must have at least temporary residency here, and then you must register at the local tax office as an entrepeneur.
Yu will get your personal stamp for stamping receipt and invoices to corporate companies, or to schools of whom you are charging for your freelance teaching services.
To tell you the truth, freelancing is also illegal for most teachers, but for the moment it doesn't stop even the most reputable schools doing it on a cash basis. The problem is that if caught, that scool will be fined much more than you as a teacher, and their license might be taken away from them. |
That is absolutely right. There should be an understanding that paying taxes is everybody's care because they go to what matters: schools, hospitals, police, etc. I have to keep my rates high as I have to pay taxes and want to have some income next to that but there are many teachers who offer half the price because they take cash udner the table and in this way they undercut my rates, plus distort the market. Then I get weird calls from people wanting to study for peanuts just because their friend has a teacher who charges peanuts! |
To you is the proper price to charge as a legal private teacher, my guess is it's much higher here, than what you charge.
I charge 1500p per academic whether it an individual or whether it be the total for a group. In fact I'm going to give 2000p a try this coming September for new students. |
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Kootvela

Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 513 Location: Lithuania
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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I typically have 1 to 1 lessons. For 1,5 h(2 academic h) I charge 60 lt. This makes about 24 USD per lesson. Surely, market value is different and we can buy different quantities for that amount depending on the country. To get back to rates, illegally working tutors charge about 40lt per lesson, that makes about 16 USD. |
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BELS
Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 402 Location: Moscow
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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Kootvela wrote: |
I typically have 1 to 1 lessons. For 1,5 h(2 academic h) I charge 60 lt. This makes about 24 USD per lesson. Surely, market value is different and we can buy different quantities for that amount depending on the country. To get back to rates, illegally working tutors charge about 40lt per lesson, that makes about 16 USD. |
As you can see, this is a much lower rate in Moscow or the region of where I am from. In dollar terms of which most of us no longer wish to use , it is much higher here.
As an academic hour here is 45 minutes, therefore if you are charging 2 academic of which is normal, you would be charging �60 or $120 per lesson (. If you are charging a group it will be split between the group. So a group of ten for example will pay �6 r $12 per lesson ( lesson equals 1.5 hours. wo academic hours. |
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BELS
Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 402 Location: Moscow
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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Kootvela wrote: |
I typically have 1 to 1 lessons. For 1,5 h(2 academic h) I charge 60 lt. This makes about 24 USD per lesson. Surely, market value is different and we can buy different quantities for that amount depending on the country. To get back to rates, illegally working tutors charge about 40lt per lesson, that makes about 16 USD. |
As you can see, this is a much lower rate in Moscow or the region of where I am from. In dollar terms of which most of us no longer wish to use , it is much higher here.
As an academic hour here is 45 minutes, therefore if you are charging 2 academic of which is normal, you would be charging �60 or $120 per lesson (. If you are charging a group it will be split between the group. So a group of ten for example will pay �6 r $12 per lesson ( lesson equals 1.5 hours. Two academic hours. |
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Kootvela

Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 513 Location: Lithuania
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:05 am Post subject: |
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In Vilnius, this is very good money for 1-to-1 lessons. The boundary between what is affordable and what is reasonable. From autumn I will increase it to 65 litas because of inflation and other related costs. |
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