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Ulyanov



Joined: 18 Jan 2004
Posts: 25
Location: Dartmouth, Nova Scotia

PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 3:17 am    Post subject: Another clueless newbie Reply with quote

Hey all,

First time poster here, although I've been lurking/waiting for activation for a few weeks now. A little background: I'm graduating with a BA in Economics in December, I'm registered for a TEFL/TESL certification course in July from a local university, and as soon as scheduling permits I'll be a volunteer ESL tutor for recent immigrants. I want to go overseas to teach English after christmas, to see the world, experience new cultures, escape winter, etc. Unfortunately, after months of researching, I still don't know where I want to go first, because I want to go everywhere. I know the standard first place to go is Taiwan, Korea, Japan, or maybe China, and that they have the best pay usually, but I don't know if I'd be happy there. The middle east looks like a place I'd like, but I guess you need experience and maybe a MA, although I wouldn't mind working in some of the less well paying areas. Latin America looks like fun too, but low paying. I don't need a lot, but I'd at least like to save some money.

Anyway, any advise for someone very confused?
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ls650



Joined: 10 May 2003
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Location: British Columbia

PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2004 4:22 am    Post subject: Re: Another clueless newbie Reply with quote

Ulyanov wrote:
I'm graduating with a BA in Economics in December, I'm registered for a TEFL/TESL certification course in July from a local university. I want to go overseas to teach English to see the world, experience new cultures, escape winter, etc. Unfortunately, after months of researching, I still don't know where I want to go first. I know the standard first place to go is Taiwan, Korea, Japan, or maybe China


Why don't you just wait until you complete the TEFL course before making any decisions? You may find after taking the course that you don't even like teaching! Surprised

I can't really offer any advice. Without any teaching experience, it's easy for a Canadian to find a decent-paying job in Asia but difficult elsewhere.
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Glenski



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I know the standard first place to go is Taiwan, Korea, Japan, or maybe China, and that they have the best pay usually, but I don't know if I'd be happy there.


Why? You really haven't given us much to go on. What is it about those places you don't like? What DO you think you'd like? What kind of person are you?
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Capergirl



Joined: 02 Feb 2003
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Location: Nova Scotia, Canada

PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Ulyanov,

As a fellow Bluenoser, I just wanted to welcome you to the board. I'm sure you'll figure out which country has the most lure for you in time. Check out all possible locations thoroughly. Before making your decision, talk with teachers who are teaching in your target country, if it is at all possible (this board is a great resource for that). Good luck with your decision!
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Ulyanov



Joined: 18 Jan 2004
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Location: Dartmouth, Nova Scotia

PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Capergirl - Hey, I noticed there were a lot of us on here. I have been researching every country, but it just makes me more confused.

Glenski - Yeah, I guess I didn't say much. For Korea, I've just heard a lot of things about it, from the boards, and from people I know who've lived there. It seems like they all just live to work, and while I value hard work, I'd rather there be more to my life. That, and it's really cold. I've had enough of that. I suppose Japan's not bad, it just seems overdone. I know a guy who's been there for the past 8 years or so, and he just wants to get out. But I suppose one guy's opinion shouldn't be the basis for a whole country. China and Taiwan don't look like bad places to me, I just think I'd like some other countries better.

As for what kind of person I am, I'm 21, a college student, kinda quiet but socialable, conservative, I'm into books and music, like any other guy my age I guess.
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Glenski



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What does "overdone" mean?
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Ulyanov



Joined: 18 Jan 2004
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Location: Dartmouth, Nova Scotia

PostPosted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just mean that there's a lot more westerners there, so more competition for jobs. At least, that's what my friend there says. I don't mean anything bad by it. Hee. Maybe I should work on my own communication skills before trying to teach anyone else. Smile
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Gordon



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ulyanov
You're right Japan is not the last frontier for English teachers. That is why I went to Korea 10 years ago, Korea was not well known back then and the EFL business was not as strong as it is now.
If you want something "underdone" maybe try a remote town in China. I'm sure you'd be a celebrity there.
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Ulyanov



Joined: 18 Jan 2004
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Location: Dartmouth, Nova Scotia

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gordon wrote:
Ulyanov
You're right Japan is not the last frontier for English teachers. That is why I went to Korea 10 years ago, Korea was not well known back then and the EFL business was not as strong as it is now.
If you want something "underdone" maybe try a remote town in China. I'm sure you'd be a celebrity there.


Well, I do like attention! Thanks for the help all, I guess I still have a lot of options to consider.
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Ben Round de Bloc



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't need a lot, but I'd at least like to save some money.

- Ulyanov


Obviously, you don't want a job where the pay is so low that you end up starving to death. However, being fresh out of university and starting out with a job in any field, it's difficult to save money at first, especially if relocation is involved. As a beginner in teaching EFL, if saving money is a top priority for you, then focus on that aspect, because it's going to greatly limit your choices of location.

All those incredibly easy, low-stress, high-paying jobs teaching EFL next to tropical beaches far from Canadian winters have already been taken by those of us who've been in this field for a while. Wink
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Gordon



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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Location: Japan

PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ben Round de Bloc wrote:

All those incredibly easy, low-stress, high-paying jobs teaching EFL next to tropical beaches far from Canadian winters have already been taken by those of us who've been in this field for a while. Wink


Still waiting and looking. Laughing
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shmooj



Joined: 11 Sep 2003
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Location: Seoul, ROK

PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well it looks like you score on at least three of those points Gordon so you're not doing too badly Wink
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Gordon



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shmooj wrote:
Well it looks like you score on at least three of those points Gordon so you're not doing too badly Wink


No complaints from me. If you can't work by a beach, you might as well holiday near one. I'm off to the Philippines in 2 weeks.
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Ulyanov



Joined: 18 Jan 2004
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Location: Dartmouth, Nova Scotia

PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ben Round de Bloc wrote:
All those incredibly easy, low-stress, high-paying jobs teaching EFL next to tropical beaches far from Canadian winters have already been taken by those of us who've been in this field for a while. Wink


Damn, that's exactly the kind of job I was looking for too.
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beaner



Joined: 24 Feb 2004
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Location: halifax

PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Ulyanov, i do not have much information to offer you, rather I am in a very similar boat as you. I am from Halifax and I am graduating this spring from university as well. I'm not sure where i want to go to teach english yet, but I am hoping to leave around Nov.. I was just wondering where you are taking your ESL course and how much it costs?
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