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naturegirl321



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 3:04 pm    Post subject: Mexico airport? Reply with quote

My 3 hour layover just became 8 hours. Is that enough to get out of the airport and do something around the town?

How safe is it to leave your stuff in left luggage?

Thanks
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wildchild



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats more than enough time...! yes, go and explore! you can take the metro, bus, or taxi to the center...

as far as luggage, i guess it all depends on what you're carrying with you, and how bad you will feel if something happened...

as long as you're not carrying around the Crown Diamond, i wouldnt worry about it...
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any good places that you recommend?
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notamiss



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go to the centro, the Z�calo. Tour the Cathedral (north side of the square), and the Government Palace (east side of the square)�don�t miss the Benito Ju�rez museum, it�s down a corridor off to one side and easy to overlook. If you have time, enter the Museo Templo Mayor (north-east corner of the square�worth a whirlwind tour if you have 45 minutes or more. It�s like a mini-best-of the famous Museo de Antropolog�a). And if you have time left, have lunch at the restaurant M�xico Viejo (near northwest corner of the square).
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

notamiss wrote:
Go to the centro, the Z�calo. Tour the Cathedral (north side of the square), and the Government Palace (east side of the square)�don�t miss the Benito Ju�rez museum, it�s down a corridor off to one side and easy to overlook. If you have time, enter the Museo Templo Mayor (north-east corner of the square�worth a whirlwind tour if you have 45 minutes or more. It�s like a mini-best-of the famous Museo de Antropolog�a). And if you have time left, have lunch at the restaurant M�xico Viejo (near northwest corner of the square).


Ok, great. Hope they have tours in the airport. that would be safe. Any idea how much it would cost? I'll have between 7am and noon free. Not too much time.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think a taxi downtown from the airport is about $170 pesos. As a rough estimate you could probably expect to pay a few hundred pesos for a tour. But I'm just guessing, does anyone have a better idea? You would have to arrange a private tour beforehand, I think; I doubt there would be a group tour available at such an early hour.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know an American who left the airport with his pregnant Mexican wife in one of the authorized airport taxis and he promptly had a semi-auto handgun (which the perp cocked just to make sure his point got across) and was quickly relieved of his wallet, phone, camera, wedding ring etc as was his wife. It was most likely an inside job (meaning the cab driver was in on it).

Even those $%^& rip-off airport cabs aren't really safe.

And people wonder why tourism is down in Mexico?
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Tretyakovskii



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Naturegirl's been around (check her posts), and is not likely to be deterred by stories like this.

Unfortunate things happen to people around the world, perhaps more so in big cities, but none of us stays in because of it. We just apply an appropriate amount of caution.

You'll be fine, Naturegirl, enjoy yourself!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tretyakovskii wrote:
Naturegirl's been around (check her posts), and is not likely to be deterred by stories like this.

Unfortunate things happen to people around the world, perhaps more so in big cities, but none of us stays in because of it. We just apply an appropriate amount of caution.

You'll be fine, Naturegirl, enjoy yourself!


My point is that even the much promoted airport taxis are not always safe.

And I have been here for over 5 years. I have only seen things get worse and worse.

And did anybody happen see the report a few days ago on Azteca news? A Chinese national was robbed in the airport (Terminal 1) after exchanging money? The robber was caught, but to see that this is going on inside the airport speaks volumes about the security situation in Mexico.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:34 pm    Post subject: HAZARDS OF MEXICO CITY Reply with quote

As I understand what you've said, Prof Gringo, security in Mexico City is getting worse, airport taxis are not completely safe, and it is not entirely safe in the airport, either.

Naturegirl has a long stopover in Mexico City, and has asked the forum for advice: what would you suggest for her to do with that time, with those concerns in mind?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2010 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Prof.Gringo wrote:
I know an American who left the airport with his pregnant Mexican wife in one of the authorized airport taxis and he promptly had a semi-auto handgun (which the perp cocked just to make sure his point got across) and was quickly relieved of his wallet, phone, camera, wedding ring etc as was his wife. It was most likely an inside job (meaning the cab driver was in on it).

Even those $%^& rip-off airport cabs aren't really safe.

And people wonder why tourism is down in Mexico?


I really didn't need to hear that. Here's the thing, was this American in shorts? sandles? khakis? Did he speak Spanish? Was he blonde? With a camera? hat? sunglasses? fanny pack? Lonely Planet?

There are ways to blend in and there are ways to stick out like a sore thumb and be a gringo that gets robbed.

Plus, I'd never take a taxi along, buses are safer.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

naturegirl321 wrote:
Prof.Gringo wrote:
I know an American who left the airport with his pregnant Mexican wife in one of the authorized airport taxis and he promptly had a semi-auto handgun (which the perp cocked just to make sure his point got across) and was quickly relieved of his wallet, phone, camera, wedding ring etc as was his wife. It was most likely an inside job (meaning the cab driver was in on it).

Even those $%^& rip-off airport cabs aren't really safe.

And people wonder why tourism is down in Mexico?


I really didn't need to hear that. Here's the thing, was this American in shorts? sandles? khakis? Did he speak Spanish? Was he blonde? With a camera? hat? sunglasses? fanny pack? Lonely Planet?

There are ways to blend in and there are ways to stick out like a sore thumb and be a gringo that gets robbed.

Plus, I'd never take a taxi along, buses are safer.


Uh, no Rolling Eyes He was an American married to a Mexican (like I said in the post) and he wasn't some LP toting type ( and even if one is, what is that reason enough to be robbed? Despite how some foreigners like to feel superior to others who are tourists Confused ).

My point is that Mexico is not safe. And it's getting worse everyday. Visitors need to aware that even places that are considered safe (The DF airport for example) can be dangerous.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:16 am    Post subject: Re: HAZARDS OF MEXICO CITY Reply with quote

Tretyakovskii wrote:
As I understand what you've said, Prof Gringo, security in Mexico City is getting worse, airport taxis are not completely safe, and it is not entirely safe in the airport, either.

Naturegirl has a long stopover in Mexico City, and has asked the forum for advice: what would you suggest for her to do with that time, with those concerns in mind?


Just be aware as possible and don't take any wooden nickels (pesos) Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found someone to act as a tour guide, DF, here I come!

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:51 pm    Post subject: THE FEAR FACTOR Reply with quote

I'm not going to address Naturegirl's situation further: it's up to her to decide what she wants to do, and how to react to what she's read here, or heard, elsewhere.

People vary greatly in what it takes for them to feel fearful. But, regarding an event in which someone took a cab and was robbed I'd ask, "How many people take a cab to and from the Mexico City airport, per year, and how many of them were robbed at gunpoint?

As for those who may have been robbed, having exchanged a large sum of money in the airport, or having accessed the ATM machines there, I'd ask a similar question, "How many times per year does this take place, with how many robbed under those circumstances?"

Focusing on the unfortunate events ignores the thousands of cases in which nothing untoward occurred.

I've been in and out of the airports of several Mexican cities, including Mexico City; I've made scores of ATM withdrawals, rode taxis and walked the streets at night a few hundred times, so far. I'm always a little alert, as I think anyone should be who wishes to be prudent. But, on no occasion have I had a single instance of anything happening which I considered threatening, nor had anyone approach me at any time in what I considered a threatening way. On the contrary, people have been going about their lives around me, as they do, on a daily basis, largely ignoring everybody else, including me.

Could something bad happen to them, or to me? Of course. Those who want to obsess about it are free to do so. Those who want to let it interfere with their lives, equally as free to do so.

I've lived abroad in six countries, and visited a few score more. None of my family back home has failed to say, on every occasion that has presented itself, that they didn't think it was safe for me to do so.

There will always be such voices in the environment who, the more you repeat that you're not worried, the louder they shout you should be.
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