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eclectic
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 Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:16 pm Post subject: Is it definite that Malaysian hiring season is 31Oct-31Dec? |
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| ......for Jan. starts? Just wanna be sure. |
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wailing_imam
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| Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:35 am Post subject: |
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| Malaysia, Singapore, India, Turkey YAWN |
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eclectic
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| Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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after reconsidering turkey and finding it is recently cracking down since end-July on the 90-day thing, and calling 2 celta programs in Sing and finding they cost $5000 US plus housing for 5 weeks, and after seeing INdia is a pile of %^$# without any real salary or atleast savings options, I have returned to focus 100% on Malaysia.
that would explain the shifting.
India, Turkey are now relegated to tourist options only, and work focus/target is Malaysia.
hope that explains it wailing.  |
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Hod
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| Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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| eclectic wrote: |
| after reconsidering turkey and finding it is recently cracking down since end-July on the 90-day thing, and calling 2 celta programs in Sing and finding they cost $5000 US plus housing for 5 weeks, and after seeing INdia is a pile of %^$# without any real salary or atleast savings options, I have returned to focus 100% on Malaysia. |
I knew it. Munich, Singapore, Turkey, Indonesia and India all thoroughly checked and deservedly binned. Just who could resist the lure and vibrancy of KL?
Anyway, to answer your question, looking at your qualifications (I feel I know you very well for some reason), you will be applying at a school such as ELS or IH. They really do recruit all year round.
It might have changed, but ten years ago, the requirement for a work permit was:
Age: Over 26
Degree (subject irrelevant, but let�s not go there)
Two year�s post-certificate, e.g. CELTA, experience
Based on that, it might be prudent not to rule out elsewhere just yet. What about Thailand? |
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eclectic
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| Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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| (I feel I know you very well for some reason), |
And for some reason that makes me feel like I trust you very well. Seriously. Call me naive. Call me gullible. Just call me in time for dinner.
Must be due to my myriad posts on my "quals" and myriad shape-shifting plans.
I AM HAPPY TO SEE YOU WRITE "DESERVEDLY BINNED".
1 thing confusing me is: I've been told by a long time ex-pat in Malaysia that hring season is end of Oct. thru Dec. for Jan. starts. That person also told me he didnt think a celta was rqwuired (but spelling is).
So which is it now then, man?!!  
I only have a BA in English, an unrelated Masters, and 2 years teaching exp. in Korea. No certification whatsoever.
Are you suggesting that Malaysia may not be the good option for me based on this? I need several opinions from you mega-experienced out there who've probably been doing this/done this for a minimum of 10 years. I dont wanna go to Malaysia to find I cannot get squat because I dont have a certificate in TEFL. |
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Hod
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| Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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| eclectic wrote: |
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I AM HAPPY TO SEE YOU WRITE "(Munich, Singapore, Turkey, Indonesia and India) DESERVEDLY BINNED". |
Apart from Munich, I was being harsh and exaggerating (only slightly, though) about how good KL is. Plus I've never set foot in half those countries.
IH and ELS in Malaysia are not that choosy. There are examples of fresh CELTA types joining IH KL. Write to them and ask, and you'll have your answer. There's always Thailand. |
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eclectic
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| Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:21 am Post subject: |
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Thai OK for celta or tesol cert, but dont wanna work there. Just checked IH and ELS websites---A CELTA CERT. IS REQUIRED TO TEACH FOR THEM.
So now Im not sure which are those "other" places that don't require the cert. And if I'd want to work for those "other" places.......
Im currently working in 1 of those here in Korea. |
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chezal
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| Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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You could always go and do a Celta in Jakarta, Indonesia. It's works out a lot cheaper than doing it in Europe or US due to cheap living costs.
Contact the CELTA course leaders for details.
Mr. ROBERT WOOD (CELTA)
THE BRITISH INSTITUTE
MENARA KUNINGAN ANNEX BUILDING FLOOR F-1
J1 HR RASUNA SAID BLOK X7 KAV.5
JAKARTA
12940
INDONESIA
Tel: 00 62 21 300 27988
Fax: 00 62 21 300 27960
E-mail: [email protected]
Internet: http://www.tbi.co.id (doesn't always work).
Good luck job hunting |
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MrMrLuckyKhan
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| Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:36 am Post subject: |
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| chezal wrote: |
You could always go and do a Celta in Jakarta, Indonesia. It's works out a lot cheaper than doing it in Europe or US due to cheap living costs.
Contact the CELTA course leaders for details.
Mr. ROBERT WOOD (CELTA)
THE BRITISH INSTITUTE
MENARA KUNINGAN ANNEX BUILDING FLOOR F-1
J1 HR RASUNA SAID BLOK X7 KAV.5
JAKARTA
12940
INDONESIA
Tel: 00 62 21 300 27988
Fax: 00 62 21 300 27960
E-mail: [email protected]
Internet: http://www.tbi.co.id (doesn't always work).
Good luck job hunting |
I've heard from SEVERAL people that the british man that does the CELTA there is absolutely terrible!!! Nothing against a CELTA, I enjoyed mine, but I've just heard that the lead instructor goes out of his way to make sure everyone has a miserable experience.... |
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eclectic
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| Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:34 am Post subject: |
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| that's a double ententre and twice at that. back 2 back pro- and con- jakarta celta posts! indeed its getting interesting. |
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wailing_imam
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| Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:59 am Post subject: |
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Just get the piece of paper. Invest the money, invest the time and save yourself a whole lot of anxiety. The world will truly be your oyster.
Here in Singapore it is not necessary to have a cert. However, you should have at least a degree and some experience. Teachers are allowed to teach higher levels of general English according to their exp and quals (Singapore MOE decides what levels you are allowed to teach). I am allowed to teach BEGINNER to ADVANCED. However, the character with an associates degree and one year exp may only be able to teach BEGINNER - ELEMENTARY.
If you don't have a cert, you may get lucky and find a reasonable job. However, without a cert and with limited experience you will find yourself at the lower rungs on the ladder competing with people who maybe have less exp, but more quals and in this paperwork obsessessed part of the world, these are the ones who will be leapfrogging you in terms of positions and salary. |
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chezal
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| Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with wailing imam.
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Just get the piece of paper. Invest the money, invest the time and save yourself a whole lot of anxiety. The world will truly be your oyster.
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It's much easier with the piece of paper regardless of where you do it. Just make sure it's one that is recognised worldwide otherwise you are always having to prove it was a valid course.
Oh and sorry for posting it twice I didn't realise that both of the original posts were from Eclectic. And I would suggested that the person who said the lead instructor was out to make people miserable has a bit of a bee in their bonnet (my opinion). |
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eclectic
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| Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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wailing Im glad to know its not a requirement. I DO believe you that that piece of paper will make things easier however. A recognized one, that is.
I am assuming Cambridge CELTA, TrinityTESOL are the best to do? What would wailing and chezal please advise about the ITTT TESOL advertised on Dave's Homepage? Its 120 hours with observed teaching--is this good enough? I dont wanna do a 2 thousand dollar program and have to be proving its validity as chezal said. Is that ITTT a "valid" one? Can you please suggest a couple others besides the Cambridge CELTA and Trinity TESOL? I would appreciate it. |
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chezal
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| Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Sorry can't help you on that one. I've never heard of the ITTT course. |
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AGoodStory
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| Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Can you please suggest a couple others besides the Cambridge CELTA and Trinity TESOL? I would appreciate it. |
http://www.auathailand.org/sit/index.html
http://www.sit.edu/graduate/6720.htm#4
Highly recommended, widely recognized cert--plus you'll be able to get graduate credit for it at many schools. (Although I seem to remember from another thread that you already have a graduate degree. Still, it speaks to its credibility.) |
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