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Master Shake
Joined: 03 Nov 2006 Posts: 1202 Location: Colorado, USA
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 3:47 pm Post subject: Filing US income taxes while abroad |
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The dreaded US tax day, April, 18th, is fast approaching.
My understanding is that, as a US citizen, I have to file but won't have to pay any tax unless I earn over about $90,000/year. Thankfully, as an ESL teacher, I've managed to just squeeze under this limit
The forms I need to file are the 1040 and the 2555EZ.
My question is: If I run a company in Poland, does this affect which forms I fill out or how I declare my earnings?
I was planning to use the 1040 and the 2555EZ. |
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dynow
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 1080
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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Hey shake,
If you are filing abroad using TurboTax, you don't need to fill out a 2555, you just need to claim your foreign income when you file and it automatically generates an electronic 2555. If you haven't been claiming your foreign earned income in the past, you will need to find the updated version of the 2555 form for each tax year you haven't filed foreign income for (yes, they even update forms from previous years) and submit that along with a tax amendment form (1040X).
If you are not using TurboTax and doing it all by yourself somehow, you'll need the 2555, not the 2555EZ. The 2555 is for self employed filers. You cannot claim self employed income on a 2555EZ.
Here's the link for the pdf of the 2555:
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i2555.pdf
Under the heading, "Purpose of Form", read the second paragraph. It states:
"You may be able to use Form 2555-EZ, Foreign Earned Income Exclusion, if you did not have any self employment income for the year......"
I'd recommend using TurboTax. Filing your federal income is free this year (some years it's not) but you'll have to upgrade one step higher, I think it's called "Basic", because you need to file foreign income. The free version doesn't have that capability. I believe the upgraded version costs $19.95. If you do it all yourself and need to mail forms out to the IRS, it will cost you just as much, if not more, to send all of it certified mail from Poland. With TurboTax, you file it and within 48 hours you get an email telling you whether the IRS accepted it or not. |
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maastricht
Joined: 11 Feb 2011 Posts: 38
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 12:02 am Post subject: Re: Filing US income taxes while abroad |
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Master Shake wrote: |
My question is: If I run a company in Poland, does this affect which forms I fill out or how I declare my earnings?
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Shake, I don't have the competence to answer your question, and you should not rely on any information I put forth. I would advise you to consult with an intl tax atty or CPA, but here are my suggestions:
Basic rule: US citizens and permanent residents are taxed on income worldwide.
For self-employed, freelance contractors, one-man LLCs and their foreign equivalents (i.e. what in the Czech Republic are called SROs), I believe you would follow basic US rules: file Sch C, list all business expenses, and offset the net ordinary income with foreign tax credit and then with the earned income exclusion. File Sch C and put the net on line 12 of the 1040.
For partnerships, multi-person LLCs, S corps, or their equivalents, again I would assume you follow US tax rules, and distributions would be taxable as ordinary income but offset by foreign tax credit and earned income exclusion. File form 1065 and put the net on 1040 line 17.
For the equivalent of US corporations (C corps), I have no idea. I would assume that you would only report any dividends you would receive as a shareholder as ordinary income, as well as any wages you received if employed by the corporation; I think the wages would be offset by both foreign tax credit and earned income exclusion, but the dividends by foreign tax credit alone. I believe that the tax paid at the corporate level would be controlled by where the corporation is resident, not by the residency of its shareholders. For dividends, file Sch B and put the result on 1040 line 9. |
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Master Shake
Joined: 03 Nov 2006 Posts: 1202 Location: Colorado, USA
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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, guys.
According to the 2555 instructions, I'm automatically granted a 2 month extension because my 'tax home' is not in the US. (I haven't been back home since 2009!) So there's no rush now.
I may just shell out for turbo tax as you suggested, dynow. It beats pouring over line after line of these tedious instructions... |
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dynow
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 1080
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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dude, TurboTax is a no brainer. $19.95, out of sight, out of mind.
plus, if they send you an email telling you your tax filing has been accepted, it's their a$$ if something ends up being wrong with it. |
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maniak
Joined: 06 Feb 2008 Posts: 194
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Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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i havent filed in the past 3 (or is it 4) years or something... thanks for the reminder. btw the basic version of turbotax right now runs for 49.95, probably jacked the rates before the deadline. since we have an extension anyways ill wait till it passes and then pick up a copy. |
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Master Shake
Joined: 03 Nov 2006 Posts: 1202 Location: Colorado, USA
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:56 am Post subject: |
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maniak wrote: |
i havent filed in the past 3 (or is it 4) years or something... thanks for the reminder. btw the basic version of turbotax right now runs for 49.95, probably jacked the rates before the deadline. since we have an extension anyways ill wait till it passes and then pick up a copy. |
Good idea.
I still have to square up my Polish taxes for 2010 before the end of April. Hopefully, I'll get a little money back.  |
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scottie1113
Joined: 25 Oct 2004 Posts: 375 Location: Gdansk
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Posted: Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:00 am Post subject: Re: Filing US income taxes while abroad |
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Basic rule: US citizens and permanent residents are taxed on income worldwide.
True, but unless you earn more than $92,000 outside the US you don't have to pay taxes on it. You are supposed to file with the IRS. |
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sparks
Joined: 20 Feb 2008 Posts: 632
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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This is for Dynow (or anyone else who might be able to help an idiot).
Thanks you for the Turbo Tax advice, I think I'm going to get it.
Do you happen to remember how you enter the info that you have been working abroad? I've been playing with the trial version of Delux but can only find info on income that I have earned from foreign accounts-- meaning investments, nothing that really suggests that I work abroad.
Any advice you could give would be appreciated. |
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dynow
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 1080
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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i remember it just asking if i had any income and i just put it in. hmmm....i can't really picture the menu options or anything. so you're saying you just can't find where to put your earned income? |
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sparks
Joined: 20 Feb 2008 Posts: 632
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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks.
No, I was just wondering if there is any part which would indicate that I am filing from abroad and therefore entitled to the tax exemption limit and two month extension. Is this info on there (to the best of your recollection)? |
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dynow
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:19 am Post subject: |
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It just says "foreign income". |
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sparks
Joined: 20 Feb 2008 Posts: 632
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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I was wondering... Is it necessary to send the Pol-tax sheet that you get from your accountant if you own a business along with the 1040 and 2555. I assume that the Pol-tax info. would be the same as a W-2.
What would Jesus do...?
Thanks in advance |
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scottie1113
Joined: 25 Oct 2004 Posts: 375 Location: Gdansk
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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Don't know, as I don't own a business. I send a 1040, 2555-EZ and a copy of my PIT 11 from my school to verify that I earn peanuts in Poland. So far so good. |
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sparks
Joined: 20 Feb 2008 Posts: 632
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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Scottie, I'm not really sure what PIT 11 looks alike but I assume it's in Polish. Do you get it translated? Certified? |
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