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gloomyGumi
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 Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 4:51 pm Post subject: Likelihood of saving 1000 lira/month? |
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| Because after Korea, saving about 3 times that almost, it'd sure be tough to save less than 1000 Turkish lira per month, unless the job was really sweet. Assuming a 2500 lira/month salary......is this possible? (Istanbul is the hypothetical city here) |
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lucia79
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Of course it's possible to live on 1500 TL in Istanbul and save a thousand, however, you'll have to budget and not spend money willy-nilly. Buying your food from the cheap markets like BIM and veggies at the local markets will help you keep costs down. If you have a roommate then you can save more. Let's say that you and a friend get an apt. which costs 700 TL and split the cost, your share is only 350 TL for rent. What you like to do for fun and how you do it will greatly determine how much you'll save. If you don't have to have expensive entertainment and can still find enjoyment in other things then you can save.
I know people who live on 1000 TL vs. people who feel they need to have 3000 TL or more to have a good life in Istanbul. It all depends on you and your lifestyle. |
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gloomyGumi
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| Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:13 am Post subject: |
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| INshallah my wife who will not work and I can find a decent apt for 750-850 lira per month, and if I can earn 2000 per month, maybe we can save 1000. |
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coffeespoonman
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| Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:16 am Post subject: |
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| Sorry, but the chances that you'll be able to live on 150-250 a month are zero. That won't even cover your bills in the winter time. If you earn 2000 a month and pay 750 for rent, you MIGHT be able to save 500. MIGHT. |
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gloomyGumi
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| Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:18 am Post subject: |
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| do you think i can earn 2000 at a place like ET? |
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Otterman Ollie
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| Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:32 am Post subject: |
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| Good grief are earnings that low in Istanbul? Perhaps you should try another city like Izmir where these are minimum salaries for native speakers! |
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gloomyGumi
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| Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:04 am Post subject: |
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| that is great news if salaries are actaully more than this in Ist. I hope Otterman is right that they are higher. |
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coffeespoonman
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| Well, yeah, you should be able to earn 2500-3000/mo. at a dersane (not sure about ET salaries these days though). |
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gloomyGumi
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| is it safe to say that dersanes will never give work visas? therefore if so, one must get a residence visa right? |
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_smaug
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| Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:08 am Post subject: |
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| coffeespoonman wrote: |
| Well, yeah, you should be able to earn 2500-3000/mo. at a dersane (not sure about ET salaries these days though). |
ET wanted to start me at 17-18TL/per hour. I've got a masters degree in education, 20 years classroom experience in US public schools, and two years successful TEFL experience in Prague and Vietnam.
Needless to say, I walked a bit further down the street and signed with another school that offered me 24TL/hr for classes taught in their building, and 30TL/hr for classes taught in companies which require me to travel. |
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Otterman Ollie
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| OMG!!!!! This is much worse than I thought, why are people with experience and qualifications like the last poster doing working in places like this, you should be in a private university pulling double that amount, baffles me completely! |
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scot47
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Save in Turkey ? I think not unless you deprive yourselves of what otherrs would consider essentials.
Why do do many TEFLers accept that they have to take vows of poverty ?
The Middle Est awaits ! |
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_smaug
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| Otterman Ollie wrote: |
| OMG!!!!! This is much worse than I thought, why are people with experience and qualifications like the last poster doing working in places like this, you should be in a private university pulling double that amount, baffles me completely! |
Maybe I can explain.
I thought about university jobs but rejected them in favor of getting the best deal I could get from the typical, commercial, private schools. Because, in my experience, when you arrive in a strange city on limited start-up budget, there simply isn't time to beat every bush. You need money coming in a relatively short time frame. So . . .
With regard to university jobs: First, I'd have to find said universities -- not to mention find whatever faculty/department hires native-speaking teachers. The universities in Istanbul are spread over an area the size of Los Angeles, whereas the private, commercial schools are clustered along a single street within 1000 meters of each other.
Second, I'd probably have to wait for an actual job offer much longer than the typical, commercial, private school, whose academic director is likely to hire me on the spot and have me working in a week.
Third, in my experience, the teachers crowing about their university jobs -- the pay; the weekday hours; no evenings; the private shuttle bus -- were in country for a year or more before they ever got their university jobs.
Hope that helps. |
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PC Parrot
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| _smaug wrote: |
With regard to university jobs: First, I'd have to find said universities -- not to mention find whatever faculty/department hires native-speaking teachers. The universities in Istanbul are spread over an area the size of Los Angeles, whereas the private, commercial schools are clustered along a single street within 1000 meters of each other.
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I think you might find that there are more language schools in Istanbul than those few clustered along that street. |
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Otterman Ollie
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Hi Smaug
Looks like the direction of the thread have just moved sideways a tad. Ok, I take your point that until you become established you need to start the cash rolling in, this of course takes time, not doubt with your experience you will find a better gig, these schools (commercial, just love that phrase) are at the bottom feeder end of the industry, and after one year you will find something better, infact start looking now, there are better jobs out there, with a lot more benefits.
Despite what Scott states you can save as long as you are realistic about what you earn and how much of that you need to spend.
Getting a job that offers free or subsidized accomodation, a mid day meal, transport service plus your social security and visas taken care of are good places to look, even most places are offering private health insurance and fights tickets, they are out there but you need to put the leg work and the research, for an academic that should be straightforward enough! |
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