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jammes



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:10 pm    Post subject: Why such frequent Manpower-type ads? Thanks Reply with quote

I've been considering Oman for a while now. I realize that salaries are not quite on the Saudi scale, but I have the impression that 20-weekly hours in the classroom there (+ 20 more somewhere) would be less stressful than pretty much anything the KSA offers.

I am just a bit perplexed as to why these Colleges of Technology positions are advertised so very frequently. Are there lots of dissatisfied takers leaving before contract completion?

Any thoughts on this would be welcome. And if anyone there wouldn't mind divulging the good and bad of his/her 40-hour, on-site week, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks, j.
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Middle East Beast



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Why such frequent Manpower-type ads? Thanks Reply with quote

jammes wrote:


I am just a bit perplexed as to why these Colleges of Technology positions are advertised so very frequently. Are there lots of dissatisfied takers leaving before contract completion?



That's a good question. I hope that someone can provide some insights, especially from "inside."

MEB Cool
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usa_in_gulf



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There has been a dramatic increase in the number students who will enroll at all the Colleges of Technology for not only this year but for next academic year also. All the COTs (Colleges of Technology) have two new student intakes each year; September and January. New instructors are hired to join the colleges for these two intakes.

In previous years, the recruiting agencies were given their individual second term (January) hiring quotas very �late in the game�; typically November/December. But this year, the agencies were informed of their second term quotas at the same time they were informed of their September slots. Therefore, the agencies are advertizing now for both current vacant slots (due to increased student enrollment) and for January openings.

Another added factor is that the hiring process has been much more selective this year than in previous years. Gone are the days of being hired with unrelated BA and a CELTA. Now you have to have a related degree and experience at the college/foundation level. Lots of CVs being submitted- but the percentage being approved for possible interviews is significantly lower.
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jammes



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:28 pm    Post subject: Technology for technology Reply with quote

USA in Gulf, thank you for your reply. May I assume that you are at present teaching in one of the Colleges of Technology?

"Facilitating" 20 weekly hours of student learning? 20 or so periods of 50 minutes more or less?

And what would be the technological component(s) of ESL instruction there?
Heavy Smartboard usage? Daily PowerPointing? Or could you say that this is left up to the facilitator?

Thanks again.
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StampLover



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Location: Salalah, Oman

PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Technology for technology Reply with quote

jammes wrote:


And what would be the technological component(s) of ESL instruction there?
Heavy Smartboard usage? Daily PowerPointing? Or could you say that this is left up to the facilitator?



LOOOOOLLLLL, to f#$%$ng funny. The only technology is in name alone. While there are "smart boards," laptops, overhead projectors, etc. getting them to work are a joke. It's old school here.

As far as teaching goes, its 18-20 hours but classes are only 1:40min long. so a full load would be 2 classes a day at 1:40min each.
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It's Scary!



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
...facilitator


And, I suppose that you refer to "tests" as KAVETs*?



(Knowledge Acquisition Verification & Evaluation Device) Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

It's PC terms that, literally, drives me up to wall! Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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posh



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is a Kavet the same as a quiz?
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It's Scary!



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

posh wrote:
Is a Kavet the same as a quiz?


I don't know. You'd have to ask a "facilitator". I'm just an old dinosaur of a "teacher".

It's like, what the hell are "people of colour"? Are Caucasians transparent?!?
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are all facilitators facile?

"Shallow, readily manifested, with an aura of insincerity and lack of depth."

Regards,
John
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jammes



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What could be worse than the "facilitator"? The educator.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2011 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear jammes,

Educator sounds OK to me:

"educate
mid-15c., "bring up (children), train," from L. educatus, pp. of educare "bring up, rear, educate," which is related to educere "bring out, lead forth," from ex- "out" (see ex-) + ducere "to lead."

"The word educate is directly derived from the Latin word educare, which was constructed by combining the two words, ex and ducere. The literal translation of educate is to draw out of, lead out of, etc. The Romans considered educating to be synonymous with drawing knowledge out of somebody or leading them out of regular thinking."

Care to share why you think it's "worse?"

Regards,
John
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bertonneau



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:23 pm    Post subject: My experience with Oman/Ministry of Manpower Reply with quote

I just returned from Salalah. Oman after 6 weeks of trying out the Salalah College of Technology, I decided that it wasnt for me, that and a sick parent that needed attending to. First, I think the various recruiters that work as temp agencies for the Ministry of Manpower get money for each body they get over there. It is in their financial best interest to get whoever they can that is qualified to sign a contract hop on a plane and come over. It's that simple. Why so many however, other than that Dave's and a few other sites are cheap advertising. There are 5 recruiters all competing for people to come over and work in Oman at the 7 different Colleges of Technology. If you know as little about Oman as I did before I got there, I think it's because no one really knows much about Oman. It's just sort of there. It doesnt make the news much and there's not much of any great significance going on. Not super rich or super poor. It's OK but in my brief experience nothing to write home about. If you need a job in a safe rather mundane country where you'll be treated relatively well Oman's OK.
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urbanversion



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:41 am    Post subject: re: loons, runners... Reply with quote

Generally a high proportion of loons, scammers and plain lazy slip through the net. Most do the 3 months take the probation...and quit. Others turn up, hate it, and leave.

Most don't stand it for more than a semester or a year.
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veiledsentiments



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:43 pm    Post subject: Re: re: loons, runners... Reply with quote

urbanversion wrote:
Most don't stand it for more than a semester or a year.

A reflection of extremely poor vetting that happens when an institution uses recruiters. Why the Ministry is not penalizing the recruiters for this, I will never understand.

Why wouldn't the Ministry of Higher Education at least have the sense to use the SQU system, which vets and hires all of its own teachers... is efficient and effective... and there is very little turnover.

VS
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thegoodprofessor



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:30 am    Post subject: in answer to the original question Reply with quote

VS has it right...
Chaos, bad management they never learn from good examples.

there is a lot of confusion, untrained recruiters who get their hands on Power for the first time over foreigners and abuse that power. Most of us do not succumb to someone coming from --------------------- acting degrading and disrespectful. Many professors/teachers get out of here after that sort of treatment.
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The housing they provided me is in the midst of trash dump area and the apt was filthy with cockroaches in the kitchen when I arrived. Somehow they found a way to blame that on me and requested many forms in order to get it cleaned even though I had to arrive to that. My apt was not sleep able upon arrival.
I ended up just paying for the cleaning myself. Not my idea of a good start and I can say I honestly hate them for that attitude. Out of pure resentment I will leave.

I'm looking for a better situation if anyone hears of anything!
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