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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 10:17 am    Post subject: I have a plan. How many errors can you find in it? Reply with quote

(In this thread I ask for employment advice at the university level in Japan. Sorry about the vague subject field.)

Currently, I'm on vacation from teaching at a large private university in Bangkok. The work's okay and I get a good (and, so far, paid) holiday of three months. But I spend a lot of time in Japanese bars in Bankok, eating Japanese food, wondering if that girl way over there is Japanese or not, etc. So I decide: maybe I'll go teach in Japan.

Now, let it be known that I'm not a person who is interested in EFL in and of itself, but that my primary interest doesn't give me any money back and takes a lot of time out of my days. What this means is that I value generous vacation time and days with a lot of hours free more than I value a generous salary. What this means is that I'm not well suited to a language school, and would prefer to stay in the univeristy environment, where I'd be just as happy as a cliche on the internet.

I will continue to teach here for about six months, but am beginning the application process for graduate school. If things go well, this will be me in two or three years:

MFA Creative Writing, CELTA, 1.5 years EFL experience (China and Thailand), American, 28.

At that time, what would be my chances of landing a teaching job at the university level in Japan? And especially in a larger city which affords some foreign comforts (eg: Tokyo, from what I've gathered)? I'm willing to get a DELTA if that might improve my chances, but I am absolutely not willing to do my masters in TESOL, Applied Linguistics, or education. I would also be willing to teach for a year or two more in Thailand or maybe Italy, if that would fix things for Japan.

Any advice is appreciated, particularly useful adivce, and sorry about the boring post.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sorry, but with that plan I think it is highly unlikely you will get what you want.

Points.

1. Education isn't very relevant.
2. No publications.
3. Easier university jobs to get are not in the cities.
4. Experience is very limited.
5. Presumably, you have no Japanese language ability.
6. A Delta doesn't mean very much in Japan.
7. No contacts.

I think you'd have more luck in a different country. Japan has a tight labor market for foreigners. The jobs that are plentiful, you won't want.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 10:53 am    Post subject: Re: I have a plan. How many errors can you find in it? Reply with quote

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MFA Creative Writing, CELTA, 1.5 years EFL experience (China and Thailand), American, 28.

At that time, what would be my chances of landing a teaching job at the university level in Japan? And especially in a larger city which affords some foreign comforts (eg: Tokyo, from what I've gathered)? I'm willing to get a DELTA if that might improve my chances, but I am absolutely not willing to do my masters in TESOL, Applied Linguistics, or education. I would also be willing to teach for a year or two more in Thailand or maybe Italy, if that would fix things for Japan.

Any advice is appreciated, particularly useful adivce, and sorry about the boring post.


To second the previous post: the minimum qualifications required for university jobs in Japan

Previous teaching experience in a Japanese university. Overseas (especially in Bangkok where guys with BAs teach at university and fake degrees are produced there)
Masters in English TESOL Linguistics or ESL. You have to have want universities here want, not get them to accept what you have chosen to major in. Some schools offer writing classes but they are in the minority as most school require teachers for oral communication courses
Contacts and connections
3 academic publications
Resume in Japanese preferred and Japanese conversational and reading ability
Faculty meetings are held in Japanese, not to mention staff memos and circulars are in Japanese, and you are required to attend meetings if you are full time
In my recent experience I have competed and applied for full time jobs with between 30 and 50 people for each job with the above (and more, including doctorates) .

I would say your chances are slim to none.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 11:00 am    Post subject: Re: I have a plan. How many errors can you find in it? Reply with quote

PAULH wrote:

To second the previous post: the minimum qualifications required for university jobs in Japan

Previous teaching experience in a Japanese university.


Sorry, but if that's truly a minimum qualification, how does one usually go about getting it?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coming from Bangkok you wont walk into a full time university job in Japan without previous teaching experience here and knowing someone . Competition is fierce, many jobs are not advertised in English and you have to know some one. An introduction or a referral helps. I have found many people part time jobs as i have some professors at universities send me job leads through my professional connections.

get your foot in the door teaching part time a few days a week, get to know people, develop contacts and publications, network like crazy. Full time jobs come from openings at part time universities and people leaving.

You have to have what the school is asking for or they will not even consider you for full time jobs. part time is where you start off first.

Have a look at the University page on http://www.debito.org/univquestions.html or http://www.eltnews.com/ for hints on job seeking.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some Do's and Don'ts for Getting Hired
Don't get a list of schools in Japan and then waste incredible amounts on copying and postage costs sending your resume to all the schools listed. Most schools do not maintain files of applicants, especially not ones coming from overseas in a foreign language. Schools accept applications when they are conducting searches to fill specific jobs in their organisational structure. Do target your job search to those jobs which are available. The key, then, is to be effective in finding out about what jobs are open.

The Web and its many search and directory facilities open up incredible possibilities in finding job listings for Japan, and many if not most schools put out certain job announcements overseas. However, the better publicised an attractive job is, the more likely it is to have a large number of highly qualified applicants. Because of this, one of the smartest ways to do effective job searches is the old fashioned way: personal contacts and connections.

Check in at your undergraduate or graduate school to find job announcements; some of these may be targeted particularly at your school because it has some sort of special sister school relationship with a college or university in Japan.

About Duties and Qualifications
Internationals are often hired for select positions that are meant to complement the majority of staff positions held by Japanese nationals. International ELT professionals are almost invariably expected to teach English speaking and listening skills as a primary responsibility. At the tertiary level, duties may also include English writing and reading skills as well.

Especially at national and public schools, foreign instructors teach the larger, survey-type, "service" courses, while Japanese nationals teach the smaller, so-called "advanced" classes geared towards junior and senior students working to complete their majors. Since university instructors and professors are expected to plan, implement and evaluate their own classes without help or collaboration, it is vital for candidates to show experiences and abilities that indicate a capacity to adapt quickly and teach independently.

Experience
Generally, it is preferred that all applicants have at least two years of experience teaching (in order of desirability) 1) at a Japanese university or college, 2) at a junior or senior high school in Japan, 3) at an overseas college where the subject taught was EFL. Being able to show a successful track record with Japanese students is extremely helpful. The reason is simple: hiring a non-Japanese represents a great investment in time and money; this will have been wasted if the international proves unable (as a significant proportion do) to complete the full-term of his or her contract.

Qualifications
Having a master's degree in either TESOL or applied linguistics has been considered de rigueur (though such a qualification is only now becoming common among Japanese teachers). Recently, however, a significant number of positions have required a degree in another speciality (such as business), either in addition to, or in lieu of, the more traditional TESOL-related degree. Three publications are the usual minimum requirement for employment consideration at many schools, especially for the "kyouin" positions. Having more is helpful, but be careful about seeming to pad your resume with marginally relevant publications.

Age
Age is another important issue: it is often very difficult for foreign nationals above the age of 35 to find full-time employment in Japan at the tertiary level unless they have either a significant amount of experience teaching in Japanese universities or an impressive publishing record. Having both is often necessary. If older teachers do manage to find work, it is often because a particular department really wanted them for a particular speciality.

To be fair to those departments who seem guilty of "age discrimination" here - one thing else must be said: if promotion in many places is still based on seniority, and if departments are under scrutiny and criticism for making promotion too much a matter of course (i.e. ageing), then it makes very good sense for a department to hire the youngest candidate available. Such age bias often applies to Japanese nationals as well as international candidates.

Japanese Language Skills
Finally, there's the sticky question of Japanese ability. Some universities include intermediate to advanced Japanese skills among their minimum requirements; many do not. The general rule seems to be this: Japanese skills are rarely necessary to qualify for short-term, "gaikokujin kyoushi"-type positions; most schools offering long-term "kyouin" positions, however, expect you to be reasonably conversant in the language before applying.

Furthermore, while schools located in the bigger cities (e.g., Tokyo, Kyoto, etc.) rarely ask for Japanese ability, schools located outside these metropolises almost invariably make Japanese skills one of their requirements. As the competition for employment among foreigners is often quite fierce in the major metropolises, learning some Japanese might be just the thing to separate you from the pack.

Conclusions
The fact that even an official at the Ministry of Education thinks that it is a good thing that Japan will lose half of its colleges and universities in the next decade due to demographic decline might make it sound like this part of the ELT job market in Japan is a dead end. To be sure, it is a sector that is undergoing much pressure to adapt to the new Japan.

First, remember, as an international, you do not fit in the Japanese idea of lifelong employment. But second, also keep in mind that many schools will try to hire as many people as possible on short-term contracts and for part-time employment because they want to have a "flexible workforce"-this extends to Japanese nationals as well. Circumstances mitigating the somewhat bleak picture we have painted include:

(1) many universities are altering their curricula to reflect the real world needs of the market place; this often places an increased emphasis on EFL learning, since it is seen as a very practical, marketable skill.

(2) even as school-age populations continue to decline, colleges and universities will keep their enrolments up by expanding standards for admission and offering courses to non-traditional students.

(3) more young women will continue their education on to 4-year and even graduate schools, also thus helping to maintain and even grow enrolments.

(4) 2-year colleges traditionally geared toward young women will become 4-year co-ed schools in order to try and survive, and those that do will surely be offering more teaching jobs.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, PAULH, for those two replys, they were quite helpful. I have a few more questions for you, then. Please understand that I'm serious about getting a job at the university level in Japan, and that I'm not being flippant. I'm a very serious (and, for my age, very experienced) teacher, I just don't hold with some of the largely arbitrary requirements that exist all over the EFL environment:

1) If I were to get a MA TESOL after my MFA (I feel obligated to do my MFA first, to keep the train on the track, as it were...), do you have any reccomendations about where to do it? Does the graduating institution matter much in the eyes of an employer? If it doesn't, do you have any reccomendations on the relatively least "painful" way to get this set of letters attached offically and wholeheartedly to my name?

2) What are some common outlets for EFL publications, so that I can get a refrence point on my publications? I wrote a thesis for my BA already and it should be easy to get three ELF publications over the next five years or so.

3) If I have the MA TESOL and the publications (and the Japanese language skills, all quite possible given that I've got more than five years to get all of this done before I'm 30), do you reccomend I then work from the high school angle or the part time university angle? I mean, which is the surest bet for what I want, and can I survive on part time university work?

Thanks. Most of my other Japan adivce comes from alcoholic whoring burnouts who've come to Thailand to retire...
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sheep-Goats wrote:

1) If I were to get a MA TESOL after my MFA (I feel obligated to do my MFA first, to keep the train on the track, as it were...), do you have any reccomendations about where to do it? Does the graduating institution matter much in the eyes of an employer? If it doesn't, do you have any reccomendations on the relatively least "painful" way to get this set of letters attached offically and wholeheartedly to my name?.


Well I can only speak from my experience, which includes a degree from a branch campus of an American university, and distance learning degree.
I have plenty of recommendations but it depends on a number of factors:

Americans can do a US degree by distance learning and pay standard fees same as a local student. Do a distance degree or study in Australia and you pay international student fees. A lot depends on what you can afford, which degree best suits your needs. You can get an el-cheapo in Thailand but I very much doubt it would be worth more than the paper its written on.

There is no 'easy" way to get a Masters degree, and they werent designed to be given away in bubblegum wrappers. If you want to cut corners and are not serious about getting a graduate degree and an education I think you should save your money. The degree is not to please employers but to prove that you have the smarts, brains and persistence to complete a degree. An average degree will cost you about $15-20,000 over 2-3 years. I dont know of any for less than that. Australian degrees are about $AUS14,000 over 2 years.

Least painful way? If I could count the ways....

Do a distance degree.
Save the money for a year or two and then do a degree in Australia as a foreign student.
Work in Japan in a conversation school or part time at a university and go to Temple university at nights for 2 years.


Sheep-Goats wrote:

2) What are some common outlets for EFL publications, so that I can get a refrence point on my publications? I wrote a thesis for my BA already and it should be easy to get three ELF publications over the next five years or so.
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I know several places in Japan you can publish. Most universities here have a journal where their full timers and some part timers submit publications. I have a hard copy list of over 100 international refereed publications which i can fax or mail to you.

Many EFL conferences in Thailand, Hong Kong Singapore and Japan will seek calls for papers for presenters. Present at a conference and you can write it up as a refereed article. Many now put such articles on CD.

refereed articles means it goes through a review board and they will edit it and check whether it is ready and suitable for wider publications. Refereed articles in a journal carry more weight than in an in-house university journal.


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3) If I have the MA TESOL and the publications (and the Japanese language skills, all quite possible given that I've got more than five years to get all of this done before I'm 30), do you reccomend I then work from the high school angle or the part time university angle? I mean, which is the surest bet for what I want, and can I survive on part time university wor.


To be honest I dont know what you want- you sound like you want to be here for a year or two and have as many holidays and earn as much as possible. Its not case of what i recommend, its a case of what sacrifices you are willing to make, what your goals are and where you see yourself working. If you want a bite of the cherry you have to do the work, and you cant complain and dither about. Either you want to get an X-type of job or you dont. I have outlined what universities require, dozens of people line up for job interviews every year with these in hand and you are just one more.
I make no promises that if you get an M.Ed and write publications you will get a job, but at least your hat will be in the ring, and you will at least be granted an interview. Its your call.

I might also add that I have just got my second full time job, I have had to take a rather horrendous pay cut with more classes and more paperwork and meetings, compared to my rathert cushy position last year. Such is life and its the same for many teachers I know here- chasing after other jobs, worrying about what they will do when the contract expires etc.

Why do you want to come to Japan?

Do you want to teach high school kids or university students?

How long do you plan to live here?

High school and university are two separate career tracks though some teachers do cross over. it depends on what your interests are and where you see your interests lying, apart form just money and earning a living.
What gets you out of bed in the mornings?

Can you survive on part time work? My last year as PT I was teaching at 5 universities and teaching 18 -20 classes a week- one day was two schools on one day. Take home pay was about 460,000 yen a month or about $US4500 a month. Plenty of work, long hours, big classes, lots of grading and marking, and commuting. Harder to get nowadays as schools cut back on teachers and number of koma per teacher. Many teachers are now teaching more classes for less.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have a look at these two articles

http://www.jalt-publications.org/tlt/articles/2002/08/glick

http://www.jalt-publications.org/tlt/articles/2002/09/glick

For a list of accreditted Ma/PhD degrees by distance learning

http://www.teachinginjapan.com/continuinged.html (at bottom of page)
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hawaii Conference on Education Call for papers.

Sheraton Waikiki, January 2005. Honolulu Hawaii

http://www.hiceducation.org/cfp_edu.htm
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sheep-Goats wrote:

3) If I have the MA TESOL and the publications (and the Japanese language skills, all quite possible given that I've got more than five years to get all of this done before I'm 30), do you reccomend I then work from the high school angle or the part time university angle? I mean, which is the surest bet for what I want, and can I survive on part time university work?

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Well what DO you want? Are you looking for part time or full time?
Do you want to work in a 2 year junior college or do you want to work for a 1st or 2nd tier private university? What is the attraction for you?

regarding Japanese, assuming you want to get to Level 2 of the Japanese Proficiency Test that will take you about 2 years (and 1000 Kanji) of solid study right there- about 600 hours of study needed to pass level 2 and pretty tough to do when you are working full time, doing temple and writing publications,all at the same time. Not a formal requirement to know Japanese but i wouldnt be satisfied with a lower proficiency level than that- many universities dont make allowances for foreigners not being able to read Kanji and you have to deal with office staff, students coming to see you etc

If you are single you probably dont need in income as much as married person, and as Glenski says often, you need as much as your lifestyle will allow- if you party hard and have college loans, credit card debt, key money to pay etc you need more money and hence more need to work. A lot depends also on how many classes a week you want to teach. Most part time classes are around 25,000 yen per class per month and many part timers i know teach around 10-15 a week, some teach more. Work for a disptach company and they will pay you 10,000 yen a day for a batch of classes but the employer keeps a huge chunk (more than half).

I dont know what your ultimate goal is- just to make money so you can go and sit on the beach in Thailand here or develop a worthwhile teaching career: I am pretty heavy into JALT and the whole academic bit and work on a periodic basis on developing publications or thinking fo ideas for articles. It never really stops once you get your foot in the door, as the schools set new hoops for you to jump over (you have to publish if you want to get a full time contract renewed for example, or apply for tenure positions)
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PAULH wrote:

I dont know what your ultimate goal is


First, the math tells me that I'm 24 right now, and that tells me that by all rights I ought to not know my ultimate goal just yet. So let me explain my current goals, and the reasons I'm looking closely at Japan.

I'm interested in writing. If I could chisel out enough for a shoebox and food in a city of any passing level of interest (so, say, Austin might make the cut but Iowa City isn't going to cut it) I would do that. But right now I'm mostly interested in poetry, and for getting employed at a university teaching that you can take most of your Japan-teaching requirements and quadruple them. The only universtiy I know of that employs and of the poets I've read is Temple, and you have to be a gigas to get that posistion.

So why not teach poetry at the community college level somewhere in America (the obvious answer), or just work as a taxi driver (big money) or security guard (you can often write on the job) or something? Well, there are many reasons for this. I've known plenty of community college teachers, I've worked as a security guard, and I have a friend who has driven a taxi.

The problem with all of these lies in the old parable about (generally a Mexican, for some reason) fisherman. You know, the one who was content with his simple fishing life until someone told him how if he worked hard he could make more money -- and now he works hard and makes more money but has a bad life. And the lesson is just work a little bit and live well. The problem with the parable, though, is that the fisherman probably had a wife, and some kids, and one day his kid probably got sick or got a fishook in his eye or something, and now the problems with working just to satitate current needs become almost lewdly apparent.

The truth is that I need to secure a backup set of bulletproof employability in some field, and that while my current job in Thailand is quite a good one, I only make 1000 USD a month doing it, and if I meet some Thai girl and have a kid then that's not going to be enough. And that means I'll have to start really working at the level I'm currently qualified at, and that means the Korean death mill (probably), and that means I can just forget about poetry for about 20 years, until the kid is well and fully grown.

It's no small secret among writers that the university is your greatest hope for shelter and sustience -- 1000 years ago it was the patronage of a king or consul, now that patronage system has been re-reified into what we have, more or less world-wide now, as the education cult. And it's really not such a bad thing that while Jeff Jr. studies to run dad's sugarcane plantation he can take a little time out of his macroecon and b. ethics schedule to read a little Virgil, and keep some goddamn perspecitve.

In addditon to this, I'm more of a happy little monkey surrounded by university type people. I worked as a dispathcher for a railroad also, and the office-talk there was about their kids and the fight at the bar, but mostly about how "Diane keeps fucking up the board" or "Jeremy stinks up the whole godddamn office." But in the staffroom of the vastly underqualified (by Japanese University standards) I currently work in, if I want to, I can just pick someone out and argue about wether education should be compulsory, or if it's a good thing on moral grounds to tell students their grades, or whatever.

Okay: So that covers: 1) why university economically, and 2) why university for myself and 3) why university for the work environment itself.

Now, why Japan, and why EFL? Well, as I said, EFL is, quite admittedly, the backup zone for me -- but that in all probability, the majority of my teaching life will be there. This is mainly for two reasons, 1) writing positions are hard to get and 2) there are obvious moral and therefore some artisitc problems with being employed by an institution for the sake of your art alone. Dave Hickey wrote some excellent essays on this (and other things), but to be brief, universities are a different structure than patronage as they care quite passionatly about what your work means (whereas patronage is more concerned about what your work, ah, looks like -- it doesn't dig too deep). This obviously puts pressure on you to keep your poetry in-line with the mission of your employer(s), or else you loose your job and what happens then if your kid gets sick?

So, it's perhaps best for me to keep my work and my secret hidden work seperate -- like the Spiderman movies of late, if one life comes too close to the other, people will probably get hurt because of it.

So, okay, best to not teach poetry. Why EFL? Well, because EFL offers the lions share of chances at variety as a teacher. Any other teaching profession almost miraculosly ties you to one or two places, in the end, if you have concerns beyond yourself (and I'm trying to plan for the day when I probably will).

And why Japan? Well, having never been there and seeing as those working in Japan always seem to doubt that anyone could be as truly devoted to Japaneseness as they are (just as the anime dorks in America feel), I should say that other than my home country most of my time has been spend in pursuits more Japanese than anything else. Sankyu in Judo, for example. But, my two most compelling reasons to come to Japan (my other country of interest, at the moment, is Italy) are the money and the Japanese themselves. In general, I'm a devotee of my fellow nationals above most others (as many people are), but in my dealings with Japanese people I've found them to be generous (the Thais are not), honest (the Chinese are not), friendly within reason (the French are not), but mostly devoted to something beyond whatever's in front of their face and spirited.

Will I be in Japan for two years and then leave? I don't know. I really can't defend myself on that front as I haven't been there! But, let me say that I see no reason why I wouldn't stay, and all the times I've left somewhere before I've always had a reason, and really that's all the commitment anyone should expect right off the bat.

As time goes by, Japan seems like the right place and probably the one that would most hold me.


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I am pretty heavy into JALT and the whole academic bit and work on a periodic basis on developing publications or thinking fo ideas for articles. It never really stops once you get your foot in the door, as the schools set new hoops for you to jump over (you have to publish if you want to get a full time contract renewed for example, or apply for tenure positions)


I'll probably never be as devoted to the EFL universe as you are -- but that doesn't necessarily make me a worse EFL teacher in the long run. For instance, I probably have an writing ability about on par with yours (even in the academic field) despite my age, and that secures some of the credentials needed for one of those four aspects of language that EFL teachers end up teaching, writing. Furthermore, since most EFL students DO NOT go on to study EFL, but rather simply English itself, this is a field where one's secondary interests can be of paramount value to the occasional student.

Let me give you the only collarary example I can think of at the moment: Computer Programming Teacher. Let's look at two computer programmers:

1) PhD. Computer Programming. Academic publications mainly about how to teach Computer Programming. Has never worked in an industry other than education.

2) MA Computer Programming. Academic publications split between computer programming itself, teaching programming, and programs specifically for architectural planning. Works and consults with archictecture firms from time to time.

Now, most students won't care who teaches them programming. Both have advantages. But if there happens to be a student who's interested in architecture and programming, then he's practically found a guru. Likewise, if there's a student who's intereted in programming and teaching programming for teacher 1 -- but just like in EFL, there are probably more type 2 students than type 1. As things probably should be.

Okay?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well what DO you want? Are you looking for part time or full time?
Do you want to work in a 2 year junior college or do you want to work for a 1st or 2nd tier private university? What is the attraction for you?


Ideally, I'd like to work in the most rarefied and final of academic environments -- I don't know The Names in Japan. But if the work, pay and especially benefits themselves are good, I would be satisfied with a much more "grunt-level" teaching posistion -- which, if it was at a university (in Americanese that means at least 18 to 22 year olds pursuing a BA), would never be considered "grunt-level" even in my mind of minds.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will be brief and I will be gone:

Having worked my way up the greasy academic pole in japan for the last 14 years, and now enjoying my second full time position, while supporting wife and kids on my income and having to deal with 3 year contracts, job insecurity, pay cuts, my first advice to someone coming after me is ......DON'T.

I know that may sound like me slamming the door shut behind me which its not. If you want 10 reasons why EFL and university teaching is not a growth career I can tell you, or you can email me privately


[email protected]

I would suggest you read the links on http://www.debito.org and I can add my own spin based on my own experiences (5 years full time, 1 years part time). Im sure Gordon, who is full time in Shikoku will have something to say about it too.

Just my two cents worth.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sheep-Goats wrote:

Ideally, I'd like to work in the most rarefied and final of academic environments -- I don't know The Names in Japan. .



Now theres a fairly meaningless term. No idea what you are referring to here and i have been doing this a few years. Mind you Im not a Literature major but a humble EFl prof at a university

rarified? there are over 700 universities, junior colleges and semongakkos in Japan

Final, cant get more final that a phD or a doctorate which you can only get at universities, anywhere. Most people are sick to death of study after 10 years of post secondary study anyway. You mean its the place where elephants go to die, perhaps?

I teach first and second years and a few seniors- not exactly grunt work and like working at NOVA but its fun and enjoyable, moulding impressionable young minds.Anyway, I do a lot more than teach EFl classes as it is. That is only part of my job description.
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