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igorG



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Location: asia

PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, how do the "forbidden topics" affect a country's system, its population's development, its education? Authorities have a chance to control the public opinion, the nation develops to the taste of a few people, and schools multiply, quadruply new generations of "obedient soldiers". The education becomes a rigid institution, which only yields to a few and prepares for a little. Innovations are hard to come and counterfeiting becomes a common practice. The nation evolves into an isolation with little possibility to connect with the rest of the cultures/nations in the world.

However, such an isolation is interestingly broken by the increasingly larger numbers of youngsters that pay their way for further studies abroad. How those youngsters deal with "forbidden topics" abroad is a phenomenom. Listening to the complaints of local UK, Canadian or American students about the narrow-minded youngsters is one thing, and seeing those very same students graduate is another.

Regardless of what happens, i am still pleased i can share my views out of my isolation in the country, and that thanks to Daves.
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The Great Wall of Whiner



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Posts: 4946
Location: Blabbing

PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chinanodles wrote:

Do you really not understand this? How many people in a position of power would willfully put that power in jeopardy? What incentive does a one party state have to introduce a democratic election process? The masses are fine with the status quo (more or less). Why would they upset their own apple cart?


Russia, Brazil, Argentina, Taiwan, South Korea and Mongolia did it; what was in it for them?

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Also, who is to say that a democratic election process would be beneficial. I fail to see how the democratic election process is inherently superior in any way.


Democracy stifles corruption.

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Choice is overrated in many situations.


So just drink water for the rest of your life.

Do not CHOOSE to drink anything else, as you do not really need anything else.

Now do you see why choice is important? In politics, business, family affairs, work, love... the freedom of choice enhances the quality of life.

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You usually get stuck having to make a choice between multiple piles of s===. S=== is s===. Polish it all you want, it's still s===.


But if it is a choice between crap and loads of crap, which would you prefer? A big pile of it, or some smeared here and there?

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At least under a one party system instead of a system that only pretends not to be one, things can get accomplished with much less posturing and bickering.


You think there is no bickering in a one-party system?

Willfully or not, man are you blind!
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Silent Shadow



Joined: 18 Oct 2007
Posts: 380
Location: A stones throw past the back of beyond

PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chinanodles wrote:

The masses are fine with the status quo (more or less). Why would they upset their own apple cart?


This is not what is is indicated in the modern day Chinese environment. We regularly hear of riots and disturbances that involve thousands of people up and down the country. They obviously feel that they don't have a voice.
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mrwslee003



Joined: 14 Nov 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In case the point is missed:

The "love" for China is shared together between the "yesmen" and those
who say "critical" things about the Chinese establishment in essence are
on the same side of the fence. Therefore the fight and animosity the
present establishment shows toward the second group is a waste of time
and energy, just like Mao against Deng for many years.

The waste of time, human resourses, & energy during the Cultural Revolution was such a colossal undertaking. And it is still continuing,
every day!

Will someone be capable enough to see that six is equal to half a dozen,
Soon?
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