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Sashadroogie
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"I don't think an honours degree in pure mathematics from one of the largest Universities in Canada is a cheap degree."
A good example of your twisting tactics. Nobody cares about your maths degree - it is irrelevant to EFL. Consequently, nobody called it a cheap degree. Your online TEFL cert is what was called cheap. And worthless. Please be more accurate. |
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Sashadroogie
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| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Also, 'Celta grads' is a strange term for someone who claims to be acquainted with tertiary education. One does not 'graduate' from a Celta course. |
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Sashadroogie
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| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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| As for the rest of your post, should we copy and paste the dozen or so posters with Vietnam experience who DO agree with our position? |
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spiral78
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| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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| .... should we copy and paste the dozen or so posters with Vietnam experience who DO agree with our position? |
From 2015 alone, I should add:-) |
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VietCanada
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| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Sashadroogie wrote: |
| Also, 'Celta grads' is a strange term for someone who claims to be acquainted with tertiary education. One does not 'graduate' from a Celta course. |
True, apparently one survives it.
Unlike other TEFL certs that actually make an effort to teach, the CELTA just churns out arrogant, bullys cause you gotta get that ratio of pass fail right eh? |
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Sashadroogie
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| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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| You know nothing about it, old bean, so you really cannot comment on it at all, now can you? Won't stop you from trying, of course... |
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VietCanada
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| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Sashadroogie wrote: |
"I don't think an honours degree in pure mathematics from one of the largest Universities in Canada is a cheap degree."
A good example of your twisting tactics. Nobody cares about your maths degree - it is irrelevant to EFL. Consequently, nobody called it a cheap degree. Your online TEFL cert is what was called cheap. And worthless. Please be more accurate. |
Well then you should specify what you mean. Because that comment and others appear to imply that I am not qualified to be an EFL teacher. I have been one for most of the last 15 years. Having spent 6 of those years in VN, I am most obviously qualified as an EFL teacher here. My Math's degree was what got me hired in Korea 15 years ago, and it's what has got me hired with three international schools as well as offers and interviews from a couple others. My TEFL Cert was only relevant to satisfy government scrutiny of the schools.
But then again, you two, having no knowledge whatsoever about working in VN, couldn't be expected to have any knowledge whatsoever of the what constitutes qualifications, let alone what actual qualifications are required or valued.
You know nothing.
You are talking out of the wrong orifice.
QED |
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VietCanada
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| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Sashadroogie wrote: |
| You know nothing about it, old bean, so you really cannot comment on it at all, now can you? Won't stop you from trying, of course... |
I only know what people who have taken the course have told me or reported on-line.
That's probably more than you know about on-line TEFL certs,,, working in VN, legal requirements to work in VN, practical requirements to get a job in VN.
Are you saying that I can't talk about the CELTA course but you can talk about working in VN?
I think you just QED'd yourself genius. |
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Sashadroogie
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| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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Again with the QED : )
You have no EFL qualifications - apart from the dubious online cert, which mostly counts for nothing.
A maths degree is not a TEFL qualification.
Not sure how a mathematician would try to logically argue otherwise.
I do note that your posts are becoming more abusive, though. Are you running out of arguments, no matter weak? |
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VietCanada
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| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Sashadroogie wrote: |
Again with the QED : )
You have no EFL qualifications - apart from the dubious online cert, which mostly counts for nothing.
A maths degree is not a TEFL qualification.
Not sure how a mathematician would try to logically argue otherwise.
I do note that your posts are becoming more abusive, though. Are you running out of arguments, no matter weak? |
That (bolded) is a lie.
How exactly is this post of yours not abusive? Especially that line which is clearly a personal attack.
A maths degree is absolutely a TEFL qualification anywhere in SE Asia. It may even be reasonable to say that is in most of the world. That makes it more valid than a CELTA from the perspective that one can't teach without a bachelors. One can absolutely teach anywhere in the world without a CELTA. |
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Sashadroogie
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| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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There is no lie. Just a statement of fact. Your maths degree is in no way a TEFL qual. Any more than it is a music teacher qual.
Perhaps you are confusing TEFL qualification with visa requirement. Not the first time you have done so. I am fairly sure it won't be the last. |
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VietCanada
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| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Sashadroogie wrote: |
There is no lie. Just a statement of fact. Your maths degree is in no way a TEFL qual. Any more than it is a music teacher qual.
Perhaps you are confusing TEFL qualification with visa requirement. Not the first time you have done so. I am fairly sure it won't be the last. |
Of course, how could I be so wrong as to think a school would require a math degree to teach math in English to speakers of other languages. The fact that I would be teaching English is not relevant here.
You win the internet!
I can't wait to hear a guy who has never taught in VN, never taught math period, explain to me about teaching math in VN.
You go girl! |
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Sashadroogie
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I'm as much of a girl as you are qualified to teach English. You may have landed a job teaching maths in English, but that is a different thing altogether.
By the way, many members of my family were/are maths teachers, so I know a thing or two about it, vicariously. Does that make me qualified to teach maths through English in Vietnam? |
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spiral78
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| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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| This is not a maths teachers forum, for the 5,000th time! |
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Sashadroogie
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| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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Spiral, you've never taught:
a) maths
b) in Vietnam
c) with an online cert
so you are not in a position to comment on maths not being a TEFL cert. Anything else is just.... Obtuse!
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