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[jeddahteacher]

http://www.vdare.com/misc/yeagley_indian_view.htm
America today is making the same mistake we Indians made nearly four centuries ago. America is letting in too many foreigners. And we Indians could end up losing this country all over again. It may come as a surprise to many white people who have been brainwashed by the media to see Indians as the ultimate liberals, but there are few groups in America today who take a dimmer view of mass immigration than the American Indian.
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The white man seems to have lost his spirit, and we Indians see it. We see that he is giving this country away to others. And this fills our hearts with fear. For we are part of the land he is giving away. He is turning us over to strangers the way medieval barons turned over their serfs when they sold their land.
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[distiller]

Ooh, more racist babbble from Dave ESL's most prominent racist. White good, not white no good. This is a common theme for jed, that being white supremacy.

[jeddahteacher]

Originally Posted by salon.com

What Bush's Harvard Business School Prof Has To Say
By Mary Jacoby
Sept. 16, 2004

For 25 years, Yoshi Tsurumi, one of George W. Bush's professors at Harvard Business School, was content with his green-card status as a permanent legal resident of the United States. But Bush's ascension to the presidency in 2001 prompted the Japanese native to secure his American citizenship. The reason: to be able to speak out with the full authority of citizenship about why he believes Bush lacks the character and intellect to lead the world's oldest and most powerful democracy.

"I don't remember all the students in detail unless I'm prompted by something," Tsurumi said in a telephone interview Wednesday. "But I always remember two types of students. One is the very excellent student, the type as a professor you feel honored to be working with. Someone with strong social values, compassion and intellect -- the very rare person you never forget. And then you remember students like George Bush, those who are totally the opposite."

Tsurumi said. "He showed pathological lying habits and was in denial when challenged on his prejudices and biases. He would even deny saying something he just said 30 seconds ago. He was famous for that. Students jumped on him; I challenged him." When asked to explain a particular comment, said Tsurumi, Bush would respond, "Oh, I never said that."

Bush, he recalled, "made this ridiculous statement and when I asked him to explain, he said, 'The government doesn't have to help poor people -- because they are lazy.' I said, 'Well, could you explain that assumption?' Not only could he not explain it, he started backtracking on it, saying, 'No, I didn't say that.'"

Bush once sneered at Tsurumi for showing the film "The Grapes of Wrath," based on John Steinbeck's novel of the Depression. "We were in a discussion of the New Deal, and he called Franklin Roosevelt's policies 'socialism.' He denounced labor unions, the Securities and Exchange Commission, Medicare, Social Security, you name it. He denounced the civil rights movement as socialism. To him, socialism and communism were the same thing. And when challenged to explain his prejudice, he could not defend his argument, either ideologically, polemically or academically."

Students who challenged and embarrassed Bush in class would then become the subject of a whispering campaign by him, Tsurumi said. "In class, he couldn't challenge them. But after class, he sometimes came up to me in the hallway and started bad-mouthing those students who had challenged him. He would complain that someone was drinking too much. It was innuendo and lies. So that's how I knew, behind his smile and his smirk, that he was a very insecure, cunning and vengeful guy."

Bush sometimes came late to class and often sat in the back row of the theater-like classroom, wearing a bomber jacket from the Texas Air National Guard and spitting chewing tobacco into a cup.

"At first, I wondered, 'Who is this George Bush?' It's a very common name and I didn't know his background. And he was such a bad student that I asked him once how he got in. He said, 'My dad has good friends.'" Bush scored in the lowest 10 percent of the class.

"I used to chat up a number of students when we were walking back to class," Tsurumi said. "Here was Bush, wearing a Texas Guard bomber jacket, and the draft was the No. 1 topic in those days. And I said, 'George, what did you do with the draft?' He said, 'Well, I got into the Texas Air National Guard.' And I said, 'Lucky you. I understand there is a long waiting list for it. How'd you get in?' When he told me, he didn't seem ashamed or embarrassed. He thought he was entitled to all kinds of privileges and special deals. He was not the only one trying to twist all their connections to avoid Vietnam. But then, he was fanatically for the war."

Tsurumi told Bush that someone who avoided a draft while supporting a war in which others were dying was a hypocrite. "He realized he was caught, showed his famous smirk and huffed off."

Tsurumi's conclusion: Bush is not as dumb as his detractors allege. "He was just badly brought up, with no discipline, and no compassion," he said.

He said other professors and students at the business school from that time share his recollections but are afraid to come forward, fearing ostracism or retribution. And why is Tsurumi speaking up now? Because with the ongoing bloodshed in Iraq and Osama bin Laden still on the loose -- not to mention a federal deficit ballooning out of control -- the stakes are too high to remain silent. "Obviously, I don't think he is the best person" to be running the country, he said. "I wanted to explain why."

[AsiaTraveller]

[Chris_Crossley]

[jeddahteacher]

The war in Iraq was not about oil
JT
www.thornwalker.com/ditch/snieg_oilwar.htm

[texastmblwd69]

[Chris_Crossley]

[texastmblwd69]

Ah, sounds like it was arrogance mixed with ignorance. Well, don't worry, most people like that wise up eventually or karma comes knocking on their door.

[carnac]

I guess I�m a little confused by jeddahteacher. In a different thread, he states:
�I have never suggested that I am in part American Indian although 350 years ago one of my ancestors was captured and raised by an Indian tribe. Most of the time my ancestors were being killed by Indians or busy killing Indians. History can be that way. JT�
And in this thread, he says �America today is making the same mistake we Indians made nearly four centuries ago. America is letting in too many foreigners. And we Indians could end up losing this country all over again.�
I�ve known quite a few Native Americans, please note the non-usage of the erroneous term �Indians� and they never, never referred to themselves as �Indians�, but always used their tribal names when referring to themselves, as in �I am [Dakotah, Iroquois, Huron]� In a paraphrase of a famous expression, �I know Native Americans, and you�re no Native American�. In fact, I suspect you�re not American, period.
In response to the second quote about too many foreigners, I would suggest that JT go visit the Statue of Liberty (you may have heard of it) and read the words inscribed at the base. Remember the words? Look them up. Lots of us still believe in them and in the America they represent.
To the readers of this thread or any other thread where supposed �Americans� state their nasty, provocative little views, I will reaffirm that contrary to what US foreign policy has been, there remain millions of Americans who hate what has happened in their name and who stand for the basic human values we all support.
The pendulum swings slowly, but surely.

[AsiaTraveller]

carnac,

The JeddahRacist likes to confound his readers here by cutting-and-pasting from the Internet. The words are not "his" though they might seem to be his.

So the passage �America today is making the same mistake we Indians made nearly four centuries ago. America is letting in too many foreigners. And we Indians could end up losing this country all over again� does NOT represent JR's own words. They're from the URL he cited.