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EF (English First) Ningbo?
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Roger



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Millie lass,
I have nothing to explain to you of all people, and my credentials are there for inspection by competent hirers; well over a dozen have seen them in my years here, including American and British heads of relevant departments at some school or other - why should I divulge anything to you whose identity is opaque?

We don't know whether you are teaching in the MIddle Kingdom of Fantasy either; for instance you are posting from "HK", which I interpret to stand for "Hong Kong"; but it is pretty obvious to anyone that you have no factual presence in Hong Kong.

And lest you jump to yet another colossal misjudgement: I didn't have to find new jobs every few months in spite of the large number of employers I have had; most of them were part-time jobs! I have held down my fulltime jobs on average some 2 years or more with the same employer! I worked, among other places, in Hong Kong.
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millie



Joined: 29 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roger wrote:
it is pretty obvious to anyone that you have no factual (sic) presence in Hong Kong.


I think you meant actual but never mind about the language thing; it can be an impenetrable thing to second language learners.

However, you had previously asked me to take part in some Q and A exercise about some �topographical feature� (I think you meant geographical � it�s the language again) on a bus ride in HK that I would never take out to the far flung back blocks of Yeun Long.
What does that actually demonstrate? That you have been on that bus and I that have no desire to do the same Shocked
I hope you enjoyed the ride.

I do have a piece of plastic called a "Hong Kong Identity Card" with my name and ugly mug on it, so it probably means I am in HK.

hmmm...I thought that you needed to have tertiary awarded teaching qualifications that would allow teacher registration in your own county to teach at International Schools in Hong kong where you suggest you have taught.
Perhaps standards have changed since then Confused
Rather curious....


Roger wrote:
Millie lass,
I have nothing to explain to you of all people

And I am sure you won�t explain.
I am sure you won�t address any of the discrepancies between your reality and fantasy since there are many here who believe all write.

I do too, honestly, I do Wink
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Roger



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="millie"]
Roger wrote:
I think you meant actual but never mind about the language thing; it can be an impenetrable thing to second language learners.

I meant 'factual' but 'actual' will do just the same.

However, you had previously asked me to take part in some Q and A exercise about some �topographical feature� (I think you meant geographical � it�s the language again) on a bus ride in HK that I would never take out to the far flung back blocks of Yeun Long.

I meant 'topographical' but you can make it 'geographical' - if that suits you.
And Yuen Long is Yuen Long.

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Roger wrote:


I am sure you won�t address any of the discrepancies between your reality and fantasy since there are many here who believe all write.

I do too, honestly, I do Wink


I need a little semantic help with your last sentence, milie; "since there are many here who believe all (sic) write..."
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millie



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

happy to help as you grasp at straws and of course avoid the central issue which is how your trail of embellishments inevitably recoils on itself from time to time.

So let�s focus on the distractions, if you are more comfortable with that.
Here it t'is:

"All
YOU write"

And I really do, I really believe all that you write, all 7,000 plus posts.

To paraphrase someone else:

Golden! Simply golden Razz
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englishgibson



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 10:27 am    Post subject: EF (English First) Ningbo? Reply with quote

millie wrote:
Roger wrote:
it is pretty obvious to anyone that you have no factual (sic) presence in Hong Kong.


I think you meant actual but never mind ..........

That's pretty funny!
Now Roger, "TO ANYONE" means to everyone, doesn't it? And obviously you have been reading a thread with heading that you have "no factual" clue about.

Roger keep reading and writing, because your "presence" here is quite amusing. Never mind the thread's heading and OP's post.

Cheers and beers
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JZer



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know whether i would want to spend a year in Ningbo. If you like to live somewhere where no one speaks English, have fun. I would not go there unless I had reached intermediate level in Mandarin.
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Super Mario



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JZer, Ning Bo has quite a large expat community. It has at least one fully fledged international school.
Also, the Wan Li Middle School has 10 foreign teachers. I worked with some of their students here in Australia, and was very impressed by their English.
There's nowhere in China where you could expect to fully participate without some local language. I've known FTs who've existed that way, but they've been parasites, relying on their students, other teachers, and Chinese speaking Westerners for everything! Total pains, not willing to make an effort.
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millie



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Oz International School is currently expanding.
Nottingham Uni from the UK has a degree programme there; TAFE from Oz has a Diploma programme too and a Melbourne HS also has a year 11/12 programme.
Outside of the major cities, it�s not such a bad place; relatively clean with lots of amenities with some quite nice country side and islands close by.

And Roger, I am still sure you won�t explain.
Facts can be such a terrible limitation....
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Roger



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

millie wrote:
The Oz International School is currently expanding.
Nottingham Uni from the UK has a degree programme there; TAFE from Oz has a Diploma programme too and a Melbourne HS also has a year 11/12 programme.
Outside of the major cities, it�s not such a bad place; relatively clean with lots of amenities with some quite nice country side and islands close by.

And Roger, I am still sure you won�t explain.
Facts can be such a terrible limitation....


I am sure many people feel it is incumbent upon YOU to do some explaining!

Have you ever answered any question raised in this thread? Or in the "qualification" thread?

Have I mentioned any of the schools you say has programmes in Ningbo?

Millie lass, if you weren't mouthing off in every thread without ever offering any advice there would be serenity and peace on planet Earth!

Have another nice day in "HK".
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millie



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roger wrote:
Millie lass, if you weren't mouthing off in every thread

The King of Comedy (he of 7,340+ posts & averaging almost 7 every day) strikes solid gold again!

I know you play the jester role straight-faced sometimes but this really is beyond the absurd into the surreal. But we love it for its pure entertainment value Razz

{BTW: you must do this deliberately. As I have said before, it is a form of pure comic genius.
I mean, no-one could set themselves up like this unwittingly, could they? Shocked }

Anyway, beyond your ceaseless litany of self-contradictions and voyages of invention:

Roger wrote:
Have another nice day in "HK"


Surely a better fate than an eternity in Fantasy Land Wink


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Super Mario



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, I'm beggared if I can see what either of you have given this thread.
You have agendas unrelated to the subject at hand: I'm sure the OP stopped reading this eons ago.
As for the patronising "lass" and "old girl", you'd get crucified by the goolies for that in Western countries Roger, old bean.
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millie



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello G.T.

A web search turned up some info. which tends to suggest that almost any �foreigner� able to walk up stairs could get a job there. (see quote below)

If the locals can understand your English and you have some sort of �diploma� (in any subject) and you have some teaching experience (perhaps as a T/A?) you too can avail yourself to a salary of up to US$700 per month.

I honestly don�t mean to be disparaging to anyone at all. That may suit some people and their particular background and fair enough too.

I am thinking especially of young people who are starting out with minimum qualifications who need a start - and why not if that is you?

Sometimes retirees do this sort of job for the experience too (get a bit of 'culture' for a year and again, not a bad idea.)

But thinking now about career teachers, it seems to me that this is a dead end job in some totally unremarkable institution - even by Chinese standards Shocked
It is the sort of place where you often find older has-beens or never-beens taking refugee from the world outside since they have little else on offer.

However, I don�t believe it is the sort of place a qualified teacher would find professionally satisfying.

I may be wrong and there might be some excellent teachers there. I don�t have any direct or personal knowledge at all.

There may be other on this list who have more insight. Hopefully they can help and hopefully I am wrong.

Lacking more specific and detailed knowledge, I would look elsewhere.

Good luck


M


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� Be friendly with China and the Chinese People
� Abide by the laws of China and observe the regulations of the university
� Hold an undergraduate diploma or a degree education certificate, better above
� Have clear enunciation
� Have experience in teaching
� Be in good health
� The load of teaching will be 16 periods a week
All people who abide by the above laws and regulations can apply for the posts and jobs
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