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Shanghai Noon
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| According to the China Foreign Teachers' Union (yes, I know) China doesn't accept applicants who graduated from Liberty. |
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scot47
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| My faith in the Party has been justified ! |
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spiral78
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grahamb wrote:
Respect and accreditation are not the same. How do you know it's accredited outside the USA?
As I said it is the same level of accreditation as Harvard or Yale or any other major college. Why are you even asking when you could have googled and found for yourself? I won't bother answering about this again with garbage questions like "how do you know another country won't accept a degree from Harvard or MIT?" or other similarly stupid questions.
nomad soul wrote:
Wanttoteach1:
So... I'm still waiting for your response to the following questions:
1. Have you ever traveled or lived outside the US? If so, where did you go and for how long?
2. How much money do you need to sock aside each month to pay down your student loans?
As I already said before I haven't been to other countries. I don't know what it means to "sock aside" anything. Typo perhaps? $0 aside to pay down my student loans. Don't use that as a factor |
The bolded sentence from your post above isn't clearly written, but I think I am interpreting it correctly as an assumption that an online degree from Liberty will be viewed with respect outside the U.S.
As you have zero experience abroad, you may not be best-placed to gauge how the degree will be perceived outside the US. France being your target country, awareness that it is an officially secular country which in fact even disallows some types of public expressions of religion is very relevant here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_law_on_secularity_and_conspicuous_religious_symbols_in_schools
You are likely to find that the degree isn't eagerly respected in many European countries. Bummer, but true.
'To sock aside or away' is a fairly common phrase meaning 'save'. Definitely not a typo. Your student loans are not a factor for us - but they most definitely are for YOU. |
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santi84
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| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:56 pm Post subject: Re: Give me Liberty or ... |
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| wanttoteach1 wrote: |
| grahamb wrote: |
| Respect and accreditation are not the same. How do you know it's accredited outside the USA? |
As I said it is the same level of accreditation as Harvard or Yale or any other major college. Why are you even asking when you could have googled and found for yourself? I won't bother answering about this again with garbage questions like "how do you know another country won't accept a degree from Harvard or MIT?" or other similarly stupid questions.
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Wanttoteach1:
So... I'm still waiting for your response to the following questions:
1. Have you ever traveled or lived outside the US? If so, where did you go and for how long?
2. How much money do you need to sock aside each month to pay down your student loans? |
As I already said before I haven't been to other countries. I don't know what it means to "sock aside" anything. Typo perhaps? $0 aside to pay down my student loans. Don't use that as a factor. |
Are you going abroad under the assumption that other countries take your accreditation standards at face value? It doesn't work that way.
Anyways, this thread is now 10 pages long. You don't seem to actually care what any experienced teachers think. So, what is the point of all this? You know more than we do. We're just teachers already working in the field, and you haven't even finished your business degree. Good luck dude. |
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grahamb
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| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:26 pm Post subject: Rank folly |
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| You know more than we do. |
The sad thing is the OP really believes it. |
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spiral78
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| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:41 am Post subject: |
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| Ah, he'll find out if he ever actually goes abroad. |
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scot47
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| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:43 am Post subject: |
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| Maybe he should test the water "abroad" by leaving Virginia ? Canada is quite exotic ! |
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reddevil79
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| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Maybe he should test the water "abroad" by leaving Virginia ? Canada is quite exotic ! |
He could learn some French there too.  |
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mitsui
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| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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That was my advice. It is cheaper and he could get a student visa.
He just would have to make money first and save enough.
Montreal and Quebec City are nice places, but that winter is cold.
Besides Quebec I think New Brunswick is possible too. |
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santi84
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The Quebecois do not value native untrained English speakers masquerading as teachers, much of the the population is bilingual. Immersion starts in kindergarten now, and a BEd is required for most jobs. OP needs to find countries that don't care about qualifications. Canada isn't one of them.
/Four years in the Quebec TESL market |
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mitsui
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| Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:36 am Post subject: |
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Not what I said.
He could go there to STUDY French.
He just needs enough money to afford it. |
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AGoodStory
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| Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:51 am Post subject: |
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| santi84 wrote: |
The Quebecois do not value native untrained English speakers masquerading as teachers, much of the the population is bilingual. Immersion starts in kindergarten now, and a BEd is required for most jobs. OP needs to find countries that don't care about qualifications. Canada isn't one of them.
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I'm not sure what, if anything, this has to do with the OP. Upon the advice of members here, he withdrew from the on-line LoveTEFL course he had thought would be adequate. He's actively sought out information about training, and has stated that he's willing to take a CELTA. Yeah, he's starry-eyed and unrealistic about moving to France--and resistant to the news that moving to Europe isn't easy--but nothing suggests that he doesn't care about sorting out what training he needs. Just the opposite, in fact. |
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santi84
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| Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:42 am Post subject: |
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| Another poster mentioned he could test the waters by going to Quebec, and that's my response. There is no shortage of non-Canadians thinking they can teach English in Quebec (usually those who can't work in the EU). That's all. |
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Shakey
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| Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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Just go to Quebec. It's very easy to find an English teaching position in Montreal. You would likely have to travel around the city, though.
My suggestion is to go to Quebec and, while you're there, study French. |
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mitsui
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| Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:26 am Post subject: |
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Since the OP is American, how could he get a job teaching English in Quebec?
Canada already has plenty of these teachers. |
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