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[choudoufu]

[kungfuman]

WOW! Do you see the words "Redrum" written on any of the walls?

Come on here. You don't need to be a China long-timer to see the writing here. Scamming you on the first paycheck? You really didn't get scammed - your money was just going into someone elses pocket.

About the visa - you are working illeaglly - understand that. The Chinese government has proclaimed that if you are working illegally they will not offer you ANY protection at all. So the school is doing everything that can to scam you.

If you want to leave you should - when it is the best time for you.

If you want to stay - then you should - but you need to have a sit down with the school and tell them no more cheating and lying and that you need to have a proper visa asap.

Bring a lawyer is good and bad. Showed them that you are a not a laydown but also bad that you went outside the school to get things settled.

Be firm in whatever you choose but so far they are just feeding you lies and cheating you. Will it get better???? REDRUM

[kungfuman]

[kev7161]

Re: the calculation of /30 - -

I agree that we actually work 22-23 days on average per month and that may be a better calculation (my school also divides by 30 to determine salary reduction for missed days without good cause). However, from my viewpoint, my school also pays me for nearly 14-15 weeks of the year without me working a single hour for it. I'm talking the various holidays and summer break throughout the year. Plus there are days when classes are canceled due to school-wide Chinese testing, sports days, etc. I'm not going to rock the boat due to their computations on this one.

I actually side with the school in that they should only pay you for the days you worked. Yes, they could have been more up front about it, but that's my opinion.

[johntpartee]

[Non Sequitur]

[Non Sequitur]

Sorry posted 2x

[Luobi]

Ok, thanks for giving me some perspective regarding the calculation of 30, I'm really new to all of this. Although I also don't receive regular school holidays, while teaching staff and students are on school holidays I'm still in the office working with administration (putting together scope and sequences, unit plans etc) but to be fair I was made aware that office work would be a part of this position.

I'll sit down and have an civil discussion with the school regarding my concerns (just myself, no lawyer present), stress the importance of the work permit being granted ASAP, do my best to assess if this "International school" is actually going ahead, and stress that when I voice concerns or seek clarification I'm not trying to be offensive and that threats of "you'll be fired" and "we'll instigate legal action if you run" are counter productive.

Thanks again to everyone for your advice, I feel I have more perspective to deal with this now, and have some idea how to deal with schools in the future.

Cheers.

[kungfuman]

[Denim-Maniac]

[NoBillyNO]

[Denim-Maniac]

Ooooh, I have learned a new word. I'd never seen 'Pollyanna'ish' before!

Maybe my post was a tad harsh in tone, and incorrect as there are probably 15 replies, but not 15 different voices.

This has the potential to be an ongoing disaster though IMO. And I am probably one of the more Pollyanna'ish members here, with a tendency to shout 中国加油！but not this time.

Mistake 1 - Choosing a job on the basis of salary, a recruiter looking good online (assuming that means having a nice website) and travelling on a tourist visa.

Mistake 2 - Things start unravelling, unreasonable behaviours, untruths being told and still deciding to stay.

[johntpartee]

I've had bad gut feelings about places and usually regretted going ahead and taking the position. In this situation, there are tangible bad vibes. LEAVE, OP! IMMEDIATELY!

Everybody on here has probably been Pollyana-ish (Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm-ish?) at one time or another, but this ain't gonna work out for you. You're illegal, they're threatening you.........

[choudoufu]

on second read, this one is starting to seem a bit too troll-ish.
it's got everything! everyone's pet peeve....

= newbie, first time in china
= the fake 'international' school
= extremely high pay in a small town
= no paid holidays
= working on a tourist visa
= late pay, short pay
= screaming managers
= lies, lies and more lies
= threats of legal action
= 'reliable' recruiters
= recruiter in bed with school
= visa from a third party school

only thing they forgot is "the director has my passport and won't
return it until they get the z-visa."


is this you, hewlett?

[fred13331]