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charlesmarlow



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f2555ez.pdf
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charlesmarlow



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f2555ez.pdf
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PO1



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I sent that form with my regular 1040. I lived the entire year only in Japan and didn't make more than 90,000 dollars so I should have been exempt. There must be a mistake somewhere down the line. Trying to get it straightened out now.
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surendra



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From my earlier post, I'm trying to figure out the info for people IN Japan. I see that Japan and US has a tax treaty. So what does that mean?

I'd imagine that if I get an IRS Residency Form marking Japan as the country I need the certificate for, I can be exempt from taxes here in Japan.

For those filing taxes IN America, REGARDING America, it should just be the 1040 and the f2555. Did it in April for Korea and didn't pay a dime.
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charlesmarlow



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Surendra

May I suggest you read the IRS document 54 see the link in one of my previous posts, it seems you are very confused. See chapter 6 concerning tax treaties but I suspect it will not affect you as it did not affect your taxes regarding Korea which also has a tax treaty with America.

Also, the documents one files has nothing to with the location you are filing from, your 2012 tax documents for Korea would have been the same if you were filing from Korea, Japan America or Timbuktu.

Again, IRS pub 54 will answer most if not all of your questions.

Enjoy the read.
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surendra



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So, read the information and some further IRS pages but still can't get the precise answers to what I'm looking for.
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Are American to pay into normal taxes and/or pension?

If yes to at least pension, can we receive it back after we leave?
If yes to receiving it back, do we need a special certificate?
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And before people, likely charlesmarlow, flame me or something, please remember we are not all genius when it comes to taxes and if veterans can give any insight, that would be great because we shouldn't reinvent the wheel.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="surendra"]
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Are American to pay into normal taxes and/or pension?

If yes to at least pension, can we receive it back after we leave?
If yes to receiving it back, do we need a special certificate?
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in japan, yes. we pay everything. when you leave you can get some pension back.. not sure how but the irs won't have this info in pub 54 because they are not japan. google it or head to the city office..
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surendra



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Stumpytown.

Using another forum and even further IRS info for us American, I found the answers.

Supposedly, we can receive the first 3 years of pension from when we started to contribute, as a lump-sum payment. Again supposedly, to receive this, we would of had to have been in Japan for 3 years.

Taxes: If you received your CoE or are sponsored by an accredited education institution (i.e. ALTs via BoE, Researchers, etc.) then you are tax exempt for up to 2 years provided you received IRS form 6066(?) after filing form 8022(?). [Same deal as Korean Public School Teachers].

Wasn't to hard. Wish others could spend 2 minutes to write this information or some one sticky it.
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