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Gordon

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Japan
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 11:14 am Post subject: |
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It doesn't seem that your gfriend wants to go overseas very badly. You need to make an effort or find something to occupy your time. She may change her mind about teaching after she hears how poorly people speak English and how bad the local teachers are at teaching English. |
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scot47

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Posts: 15343
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 11:27 am Post subject: Concubinage |
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You cannot bring your concubine with you. Concubinage was abolished some time ago in China. If she is your wife it is different. |
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shmooj

Joined: 11 Sep 2003 Posts: 1758 Location: Seoul, ROK
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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THough of course, my opinion is only that, I would strongly advise against a marriage of convenience and I would also advise against emigrating during your first year or so of marriage. The stresses would be beyond description.
I do hope you aren't really considering marrying her and then bringing her halfway round the world so you can teach over this way. She would be very very lonely I think.
My wife and I did six months voluntary work in India in our first year of marriage but I was very experienced at that sort of thing and took it very gently. We were both working at the same place too so were with each other constantly. Now, even though we are both well travelled, she finds living in a new place much harder than me because I have my work to get stuck into from day 1 while she has to venture out and face the world beyond her door. She does a great job but it causes a lot of stress on our relationship even though we've been doing this for ten years. |
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yamahuh
Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 1033 Location: Karaoke Hell
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I should probably address some of the concerns raised here.
Both Cathy and I have discussed travelling abroad for quite some time, but we had a sprog (read teenager) who needed some stability in order to finish high school. She has since moved out of the house and is doing her own thing and finding her feet in the real world.
This, of course, opens up a world of opportunities for Cathy and I and we can now seriously turn our attention to living out what we have talked about for so long.
We have been together for around 12 years, so a marriage certificate merely endorses a marriage, which has , for all intents and purposes been in effect for over a decade.
Cathy wanted to volunteer overseas, but I felt that I didn't have any real transferrable skills ( I spent 11 years in the brewing industry and now sell industrial chemicals for a living) which is one of the reasons I decided to get myself certified to teach with a Tesl Canada recognised course and practicum. I figured that way I could gain some useful skills that would be useful anywhere in the world.
I've talked to Cathy and she now seems to realize the importance of looking to see what opportunities are there for her in our prospective countries of choice. She tends to be more optimistic regarding her employment opportunities, whereas I tend to err on the side of caution (realism?).
I just want this to be an enjoyable experience for us both. |
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Posted: Tue May 11, 2004 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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When my partner of 4 years came from Australia to visit me in January this year, I told everyone here he was my Husband as it seemed simpler for the sake of the children, but now I am regretting that of course as I am staying in China and he is not moving here.
If down the track I meet someone, which I hope I do, it will take a bit of explaining away to the Teachers etc. here.
I think that if he were to come here and live with me on the School grounds, they would be okay with that as they have never refused me anything yet, however I do not know what sort of Visa he would have to get.
At the present time he is not considering that though as he would miss his RUGBY and MOTOR RACING and cable T.V. too much. I do not think he is one of the people who are cut out to live in China permanently.
Tell Cathy to contact me if she wants some more information. I was SCARED STIFF the first week I taught here as I had NEVER even given a speech in my life and never stood up in front of a classroom of children. I did not think I could do it, but now I love it. I would like to talk to her and give her some confidence. |
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rj

Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 159
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 1:25 am Post subject: |
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yamahuh wrote: |
How are you liking China and whereabouts are you? |
I haven't made it over yet We had planned to go next fall (2005) but we're getting ansty so we moved it up to the summer (2005) instead. We've decided to go to Changchun but won't be looking for jobs till a couple months before we leave. |
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 6:03 am Post subject: |
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Please ask Cathy to email me. If anyone can convince her how easy it is here to "teach conversational English" I can. I was absolutely petrified at first and now I love it.
May email address is: [email protected]
Ask her to at least talk to me about it - she has nothing to lose. |
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yamahuh
Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 1033 Location: Karaoke Hell
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Posted: Wed May 12, 2004 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you for your offer.
I will ask her to contact you.  |
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Teacher in Rome
Joined: 09 Jul 2003 Posts: 1286
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Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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My wife and I did six months voluntary work in India in our first year of marriage but I was very experienced at that sort of thing and took it very gently. We were both working at the same place too so were with each other constantly. Now, even though we are both well travelled, she finds living in a new place much harder than me because I have my work to get stuck into from day 1 while she has to venture out and face the world beyond her door. She does a great job but it causes a lot of stress on our relationship even though we've been doing this for ten years.
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Shmooj
It seems a bit unequal! Your wife seems to be the person having to battle in a new country, while you have your work to help you acclimatise to a new country. Can your wife work in Korea, or are you in the (lucky?) position of only needing one breadwinner per household?
This is a really interesting thread, in that a lot of teachers are driven by wanting to work overseas. But when we want to go with our partners, it can get a little difficult.
Yamahuh - I'm not sure if you said whether Cathy had the sort of experience that she could use overseas, either in teaching or in another field. It could be that she could find work similar to what she does now, especially if you end up living in a largeish city. Just to give you an example, my bf is not a teacher, but a web programmer and developer. It doesn't matter much to him where he lives, as he can work freelance. |
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Roger
Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 9138
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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You can, with a little luck, obtain a DEPENDANT'S visa for her in China, though this is not automatic in cases such as yours.
A dependant's visa does NOT entitle her to work in the PR of C.
If she is not inclined to accept a teaching job, she has little choice but to be your house doll or pet. Don't force her to teach - it's not everybody's cup of tea! Especially in China!
Few job opportunites exist. Don't forget China has a huge unemployment problem.
Some jobs crop up such as MODELLING, bartendering etc.; for such jobs, go to www.thatsshanghai.com or thatsbeijing.com. I don't think you want to try your luck in Guangzhou - in which case you should visit www.thats.guangzhou.com
The best alternative jobs available are in Peking and Shanghai - many western-owned bars, modelling agencies and so on. But don't count on finding GOOD and LASTING employmenbt for her! |
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MW from thatsbeijing
Joined: 21 Dec 2004 Posts: 3
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 12:41 am Post subject: that's websites |
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Roger wrote: |
Some jobs crop up such as MODELLING, bartendering etc.; for such jobs, go to www.thatsshanghai.com or thatsbeijing.com. I don't think you want to try your luck in Guangzhou - in which case you should visit www.thats.guangzhou.com |
by the way the URL for that's Beijing is now www.thatsbj.com. |
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cujobytes
Joined: 14 May 2004 Posts: 1031 Location: Zhuhai, (Sunny South) China.
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Posted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 4:27 am Post subject: > |
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In the hinterland you can get arrested and deported for less. |
Crap. |
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