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kungfuman
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| JamesD wrote: |
It really depends on the parents, schooling arrangements, and the maturity level of the kids but.........
I worked with a lady who brought her 17 year old son with her. He found out he could buy cheap beer, the girls were more than happy to date a young westerner, and he was on his own most of the day. It did not end well. |
if I was 17 and my parents brought me here while they worked all day it would have ended VERY WELL - for me. |
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rogerwilco
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| Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 3:45 am Post subject: Re: Teenagers in China |
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I can see how certain aspects of living here could be good for children/teenagers (so long as they don't go to a state school). A lot of the kids are very innocent unlike in the west. Where the media sexualises children and most are obsessed with losing their virginity before they're 16. I'm generalising, but just look at the teenage pregnancy figures. |
There are more teen pregnancies in the West due to it being more acceptable, and many people being against abortion.
In China, teen pregnancy is greatly discouraged, but abortion is widely accepted, so teens in China just use abortion as a form of birth control.
The babies get aborted, that is why you do not see pregnant teens in China.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_China
"However in 2008, there were an estimated 13 million abortions performed, and approximately 10 million abortion pills sold."
"The importance of abortions as a family planning tool is evident through the extensive implementation of medical abortions (abortion induced by pills, which can be performed in early pregnancy) in China." |
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it'snotmyfault
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| Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 4:36 am Post subject: Re: Teenagers in China |
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| rogerwilco wrote: |
| it'snotmyfault wrote: |
I can see how certain aspects of living here could be good for children/teenagers (so long as they don't go to a state school). A lot of the kids are very innocent unlike in the west. Where the media sexualises children and most are obsessed with losing their virginity before they're 16. I'm generalising, but just look at the teenage pregnancy figures. |
There are more teen pregnancies in the West due to it being more acceptable, and many people being against abortion.
In China, teen pregnancy is greatly discouraged, but abortion is widely accepted, so teens in China just use abortion as a form of birth control.
The babies get aborted, that is why you do not see pregnant teens in China.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_China
"However in 2008, there were an estimated 13 million abortions performed, and approximately 10 million abortion pills sold."
"The importance of abortions as a family planning tool is evident through the extensive implementation of medical abortions (abortion induced by pills, which can be performed in early pregnancy) in China." |
That link doesn't talk about teenagers specifically though. I'd still say there are far fewer teenage pregnancies here. I had a quick look online but couldn't find any info to back it up.
But aside from anything else, where are they all going to have sex? They spend all their lives in shared dormitories, with pretty much their whole day micro-managed by teachers and parents.
I'm not saying it doesn't happen but I think the social stigma and lack of opportunity makes it less of a problem here.
Plus a lot of those abortions could be couples who have "accidentally" conceived a second child or married couples having sex selective abortions. It skews the statistics
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choudoufu
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| Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 4:42 am Post subject: Re: Teenagers in China |
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| it'snotmyfault wrote: |
| ...But aside from anything else, where are they all going to have sex? They spend all their lives in shared dormitories, with pretty much their whole day micro-managed by teachers and parents... |
take a walk outside any college campus.....along with the net bars and
pool halls, you will find cheap hotels offering rooms by the hour. |
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it'snotmyfault
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| Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 4:58 am Post subject: Re: Teenagers in China |
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| choudoufu wrote: |
| it'snotmyfault wrote: |
| ...But aside from anything else, where are they all going to have sex? They spend all their lives in shared dormitories, with pretty much their whole day micro-managed by teachers and parents... |
take a walk outside any college campus.....along with the net bars and
pool halls, you will find cheap hotels offering rooms by the hour. |
I do see them, I see some of the disgusting middle aged creatures crawling out of them too.
How many times do you see two 16yr olds getting a room by the hour though? I've never seen it. |
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choudoufu
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| Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 5:12 am Post subject: Re: Teenagers in China |
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| .... I've never seen it. |
........then it obviously never happens. my mistake.
i am probably also mistaken in assuming the "uncles" driving the
black cars with tinted windows picking up students dressed like
12-kuai whores friday and saturday night at the front gate aren't
really their uncles.
.....although it is odd that their family reunions usually last until early
the following morning. |
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it'snotmyfault
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| Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 5:18 am Post subject: Re: Teenagers in China |
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| choudoufu wrote: |
| it'snotmyfault wrote: |
| .... I've never seen it. |
........then it obviously never happens. my mistake.
i am probably also mistaken in assuming the "uncles" driving the
black cars with tinted windows picking up students dressed like
12-kuai whores friday and saturday night at the front gate aren't
really their uncles.
.....although it is odd that their family reunions usually last until early
the following morning. |
I'm going to abort myself (sorry about that) from this discussion before I'm accused of being a wu mao. |
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Sarcastro
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| Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 8:04 am Post subject: Re: Teenagers in China |
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| it'snotmyfault wrote: |
| diana83709 wrote: |
| . She did her school studies online |
How does that work? Can you follow the Oz curriculum online?
I can see how certain aspects of living here could be good for children/teenagers (so long as they don't go to a state school). A lot of the kids are very innocent unlike in the west. Where the media sexualises children and most are obsessed with losing their virginity before they're 16. |
It still amazes me that we hang on to this idea of The East being untamed and exotic. Like there is some kind of inherent innocence to the evils if civilization. It's the less imperialist form of "The Great White Hope" of western civilization.
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| I'm generalizing, but just look at the teenage pregnancy figures. |
Yes, lets!
| CDC/National Center for Health Statistics wrote: |
-- The U.S. teen birth rate declined 9 percent from 2009 to 2010, reaching a historic low at 34.3 births per 1,000 women aged 15�19; the rate dropped 44 percent from 1991 through 2010.
-- Teen birth rates by age and race and Hispanic origin were lower in 2010 than ever reported in the United States.
-- Fewer babies were born to teenagers in 2010 than in any year since 1946. If the teen birth rates observed in 1991 had not declined through 2010 as they did, there would have been an estimated 3.4 million additional births to teens during 1992�2010.
-- Teen birth rates fell in all but three states during 2007�2010. Teen birth rates by state vary significantly, reflecting in part differences in the population composition of states by race and Hispanic origin.
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it'snotmyfault
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| Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 2:37 pm Post subject: Re: Teenagers in China |
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| it'snotmyfault wrote: |
I can see how certain aspects of living here could be good for children/teenagers (so long as they don't go to a state school). A lot of the kids are very innocent unlike in the west. Where the media sexualises children and most are obsessed with losing their virginity before they're 16. |
| Sarcastro wrote: |
It still amazes me that we hang on to this idea of The East being untamed and exotic. Like there is some kind of inherent innocence to the evils if civilization. It's the less imperialist form of "The Great White Hope" of western civilization. |
You're getting a bit carried away there. I'm definitely not suggesting the west is a moral abyss that should adapt Confucian values immediately or risk going to hell. I just highlighted one area where I think they do a better job (for want of a better term).
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Yes, lets!
-- The U.S. teen birth rate declined 9 percent from 2009 to 2010, reaching a historic low at 34.3 births per 1,000 women aged 15�19; the rate dropped 44 percent from 1991 through 2010.
-- Teen birth rates by age and race and Hispanic origin were lower in 2010 than ever reported in the United States.
-- Fewer babies were born to teenagers in 2010 than in any year since 1946. If the teen birth rates observed in 1991 had not declined through 2010 as they did, there would have been an estimated 3.4 million additional births to teens during 1992�2010.
-- Teen birth rates fell in all but three states during 2007�2010. Teen birth rates by state vary significantly, reflecting in part differences in the population composition of states by race and Hispanic origin.
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Its good that the figures are coming down but you missed this bit
"In spite of these declines, the U.S. teen birth rate remains one of the highest among other industrialized countries" |
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diana83709
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Yes, it did. Not like the options for online school today. Some of her education was homeschooled by her father and I. She completed online school after we returned home.
The drawback is the lack of school activities such as sports and clubs. Not like at home, that's for sure. Socialization was a problem in the beginning, but she made a lot of friends and learnt Chinese and seemed happy in her surroundings. |
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DCHun
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| kungfuman wrote: |
| JamesD wrote: |
It really depends on the parents, schooling arrangements, and the maturity level of the kids but.........
I worked with a lady who brought her 17 year old son with her. He found out he could buy cheap beer, the girls were more than happy to date a young westerner, and he was on his own most of the day. It did not end well. |
if I was 17 and my parents brought me here while they worked all day it would have ended VERY WELL - for me. |
Yes, I'm sure for that kid it ended...happily... |
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