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scepticalbee
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Hi Spiral, thanks for the reply!
You're right: the Celta is not a ticket to the world and I'm completely aware of it...However, it's becoming a necessary and almost mandatory ticket to the ESL world!
Every ESL/EFL teacher who's thinking about taking their teaching career seriously have to take the Celta. |
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scepticalbee
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(@ Spiral: had to split the message again... so annoying!!)
Thanks for the explanations, I didn't know that it worked that way
I thought that it was like the TKT exam: you may attend 1 or 2 weeks study time with a trainer in a classroom in order to prepare for the TKT or you can take the test right away... The training session is not mandatory. |
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santi84
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| Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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However, it's becoming a necessary and almost mandatory ticket to the ESL world!
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Just to be clear, the CELTA is a minimum EFL/ESL qualification, it is not a necessary qualification to teach ESL/EFL abroad. Practical, useful, and a solid beginner step, absolutely! There are lots of us who do not have a CELTA. Of course, this depends on your prior education as well.
I'm assuming you don't have a degree related to TESL, but if you do, I just want to make that clear. Sometimes we get posters with BEd in TESL or other similar degrees thinking they need to take a CELTA/additional TEFL and that's not always true. |
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Sashadroogie
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| Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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Come to Russia! Do the Celta in Moscow! It's the best!
There! That is the answer you have all been waiting for! |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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Are there any differences in the course between the expensive Celta and the cheap ones?
Is the on line Celta preparation as accurate and effective as the on site one?
And: are there any ESL teachers in here who took an on line or an on site Celta exam? |
All the answers to your questions (and more) can be found on the Cambridge ESOL website, including where the CELTA online is offered (its availabilitiy is limited because it's fairly new). I suggest you start there because you're sort of fishing for info here. There are also other threads within this forum and the newbie forum specific to the CELTA.
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| Every ESL/EFL teacher who's thinking about taking their teaching career seriously have to take the Celta. |
Actually, those who take their teaching career seriously usually complete a TESOL-related master's degree.
Ditto Santi's comments: CELTA is an entry-level teaching qualification; a bachelor's degree isn't required for enrollment. But again, go to the Cambridge ESOL site, especially since you need to figure out where you can get a visa in order to take the course. Plus, they may have additional requirements for non-native speakers. |
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Denim-Maniac
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Well, I wanted to focus more on the Celta than on my own person, that's why I avoided to state my passport and my citizenship...
I think that these matters could be discussed in another thread.
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People are asking again and again about these personal things to try and give you better advice. In many regions of the world a CELTA is not required for legal working papers to be issued. Undergraduate degrees and passports from certain countries are a pre-requisite to legal work. Ignoring this request for information from people trying to help is not only silly, its also a little annoying.
Even more annoying would be to come back in 4 weeks time and say 'I have got my CELTA' and then discover that many of the regions you want to work in are not open to you anyway. |
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scepticalbee
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| Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:04 am Post subject: |
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Hi Santi, thanks for your reply.
Celta is the most important qualification to get if you want to teach English to adults. You'll need Bachelor or Master degrees in Education only if you want to teach kids in public schools...
Celta is also the most important certificate to get if you want to become an EFL/ESL teacher, whether abroad or in your home country as well... It's THE reference that proves to your employers that you do have the ability to teach EFL/ESL...
And yeah, btw, I do have a TEFL certificate, but it's unfortunately not enough...
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scepticalbee
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@ Nomad soul:
Thanks for your reply...
I've already been to the Cambridge ESOL website and I've already got the appropriate info I wanted to get, thanks a lot...
Now, I just wanted to chat about Celta in here, maybe to get some personal advice from people who do have the Celta and who could give me some useful tips about how it really works, some explanations about the different costs, etc...
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scepticalbee
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(had to split the message... sorry for that.)
So, I'm not "fishing info" at all, as you assumed it, I'm just trying to discuss a point with the Celta graduates.
Now, it's obvious through your answers that you don't have the Celta so you cannot tell me more about it...
Anyway, thanks again for the help.
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scepticalbee
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@ Demi-maniac:
Thanks for you reply.
The topic is about Celta, not about how annoying or not I could be....
Besides, I do have the right to refuse to give my personal info in the forum as it is stated in the chart (which you have already read, haven't you?).
However, we are in a democracy and you have the right to dislike my posts, if you want.
I also have the right to tell you that yours is highly provocative, offensive and irritating, just as your attitude, which is really far from being smart at all, btw... |
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scepticalbee
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@ Demi-maniac, again:
I've never said that I wanted to get the Celta to be able to teach abroad...
I just wanted to discuss the certificate in itself with other people who are actually graduated and who could, then, give me some precious tips about it...
For the visa regulations, etc..: I'm already in the big picture, don't worry about that! |
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scepticalbee
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@ Demi-maniac, again, again:
I do exactly know everything about the places where I could get a job as a Celta graduate.
So, you might think that I'm annoying and silly, but let me tell you that I do really think that you are nothing less than completely dumb and really irritating.
Thank you very much again for your reply. |
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santi84
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| Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:53 am Post subject: |
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| scepticalbee wrote: |
Hi Santi, thanks for your reply.
Celta is the most important qualification to get if you want to teach English to adults.
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No.
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You'll need Bachelor or Master degrees in Education only if you want to teach kids in public schools...
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Again, no.
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Celta is also the most important certificate to get if you want to become an EFL/ESL teacher, whether abroad or in your home country as well... It's THE reference that proves to your employers that you do have the ability to teach EFL/ESL...
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A big NO on that one 
I'm curious - why are you tooting CELTA's horn so much? You didn't even know what format it was delivered (study prep? classroom? testing?), how could you possibly know how important it was in other places?
Here in Canada, a CELTA might get you a few hours on a Thursday night in a language school. Maybe it is the golden standard where you come from (and who knows where that is), but it sure isn't where I live.
Not to disparage CELTA because it's a perfectly adequate minimal qualification, but it's just that - a minimal qualification and hardly reflects a person's true ability to teach ESL. |
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santi84
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| Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:55 am Post subject: |
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| By the way, hiring managers do actually read Dave's Cafe on occasion, you might want to can the attitude towards helpful posters. You might be shooting down good connections. |
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scepticalbee
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@ Santi:
CELTA : "Certificate in Teaching English to Speakers of Other Languages"
When a poster says that your post is "annoying and silly", it is not helpful at all...
Same thing when you say that someone like me who doesn't know anything about the Celta (which is completely wrong, btw) shouldn't be trying to take it.
I think that bringing people down in a "helpful" way like you do wouldn't also help you to get contacted for a future job...
Thanks again for your "help"... |
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