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November evacuation from Tokyo, perhaps Japan. readying....
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Pitarou



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

teenoso wrote:
From outside Japan, what is striking is that , after all the cover-ups and c**k-ups , the Japanese government has left TEPCO in charge at Fukushima.
You're a little out of date. The Government of Japan took over the operation after TEPCO admitted that it was incapable of controlling the leaks of contaminated water.

At least, that's the official story.
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stumptowny



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:27 am    Post subject: 10/21/2013 update... Reply with quote

Water has overflowed at Japan’s Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant. Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) is attempting to discern the quality of the water and possible radioactive substances which could have been spilled.

TEPCO announced on Monday that the water overflowed in 12 areas of the plant.

Heavy rains caused water to flow over the barriers of an artificial embankment which surrounds a dozen tanks of radioactive water at the plant. TEPCO reported that liquid containing a source of beta radiation was found beyond the levees.

The company said the incident was “due to heavy rain in the Tohoku region.” Company specialists are attempting to identify the amount of leaked water and the radiation levels present in the liquid.

Radioactivity levels in a well near a storage tank at the Fukushima nuclear power plant have risen immensely, the plant’s operator earlier reported, fueling ongoing concern about the impact of radiation on the surrounding environment.

Last Wednesday, heavy rains brought with Typhoon Wipha caused reservoirs for collecting rainwater to overflow. The natural disaster was described by weather forecasters as the strongest in a decade, leaving at least 17 people dead and 50 others missing in its wake.

Workers at the Fukushima plant had to pump rainwater out of protective containers surrounding approximately 1,000 tanks holding radioactive water. It is thought that the heavy rains lifted contaminated soil.

Shortly afterwards, radiation levels were found to have skyrocketed. TEPCO officials said Friday that they detected 400,000 becquerels per liter of beta ray-emitting radioactive substances - including strontium - at the site of a well near a storage tank. The level was 6,500 times higher than readings taken Wednesday, according to NHK World.

The news showed that radioactive substances like strontium have reached the groundwater, according to the officials. In August, the same storage tank leaked over 300 tons of contaminated water.

Earlier this month, TEPCO announced that 430 liters of polluted water had spilled from a tank as the company’s employees tried to remove rainwater dumped at the plant by recent typhoons. The contaminated water may well have flowed into the sea, TEPCO said.

However, estimates still may be unreliable. The UN Scientific Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation (UNSCEAR) raised doubts at the beginning of the month. A preliminary report published in the Japanese press concluded that estimates of radioactive substances discharged at the plant provided by the Japanese authorities, TEPCO, and other entities may have underestimated the impact of the disaster.

The power plant was disrupted in March 2011 by a massive earthquake and tsunami which wreaked havoc at Fukushima and sparked a nuclear crisis in which meltdowns occurred in three reactors. It was considered to be the world’s worst nuclear accident since the Chernobyl disaster in 1986.

In September, a senior utility expert at Fukushima, Kazuhiko Yamashita, said that the plant was “not under control.” TEPCO downplayed his comments, saying that he had only been talking about the plant’s waste water problem – not the facility as a whole.

http://rt.com/news/fukushima-leak-radioactive-overflow-469/
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OneJoelFifty



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rxk22 wrote:
Oh wow, that is pretty nuts. I guess the brainwashing starts from pretty high up. So, that is pretty worrisome.

I think like most, I just want this to be over with. I am not one of the Chicken Littles, and don't care for the hysterics. That said, still would like some competent people to wrap this up


You could call it brainwashing, you could call it managing potentially harmful overreactions. I'm sure no one will know the full extent of what's happened and how it's affected people's health for many years.

The reason we're moving isn't because we believe 100% that our daughter is in danger. It's because my wife can't relax as a mother knowing that there's the chance she could be, and that we are able to completely remove that risk.
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Pitarou



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:59 am    Post subject: Re: 10/21/2013 update... Reply with quote

stumptowny wrote:
Pitarou wrote:
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probably not the first to tell you this.. maybe a break from Dave's?? this thread certainly. I know you are very active. thanks for your other contributions related to the content of this thread..
Guilty as charged. I'm procrastinating from more important stuff. But you still need to remove most of that article you pasted in earlier.
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rxk22



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OneJoelFifty wrote:
rxk22 wrote:
Oh wow, that is pretty nuts. I guess the brainwashing starts from pretty high up. So, that is pretty worrisome.

I think like most, I just want this to be over with. I am not one of the Chicken Littles, and don't care for the hysterics. That said, still would like some competent people to wrap this up


You could call it brainwashing, you could call it managing potentially harmful overreactions. I'm sure no one will know the full extent of what's happened and how it's affected people's health for many years.

The reason we're moving isn't because we believe 100% that our daughter is in danger. It's because my wife can't relax as a mother knowing that there's the chance she could be, and that we are able to completely remove that risk.

I can see that. You don't want to induce panic. But at the same time, you do need to take reasonable precautions.
Which I think is what you are doing. Even a small chance of harm is more than what I'd like to risk for my daughter. Esp if just moving would dramatically reduce the risk.
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stumptowny



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lets hope the current typhoon "Francisco" does not wreak more havoc at fukushima. its due this weekend and although its only a cat 1 and likely smaller by this weekend, it's the rains that are flooding the troubled areas. last weeks typhoon did just that.. water spills of contaminates are largely diluted by the sea... concerning fisheries and wildlife but particularly bad for the amounts of water tokyo receives from underground aquafirs in that area.
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Solar Strength



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stumptowny wrote:
lets hope the current typhoon "Francisco" does not wreak more havoc at fukushima. its due this weekend and although its only a cat 1 and likely smaller by this weekend, it's the rains that are flooding the troubled areas. last weeks typhoon did just that.. water spills of contaminates are largely diluted by the sea... concerning fisheries and wildlife but particularly bad for the amounts of water tokyo receives from underground aquafirs in that area.


I don't have any cats but I wish all of those in the area the best of luck. It's sad to see so many nekos outside durding these crazy taifoo.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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stumptowny



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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stumptowny



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tepco or the Japanese Gov. to address Fukushima? The Answer: TEPCO!

Great coverage on the thom hartmann show (link below) about privatizing power... the japanese gov. has given TEPCO control of the cleanup. this could be ugly...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XD3EuTKzcQ
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BBC's Rupert Wingfield-Hayes in fukushima tomorrow to inspect the reactors... He gives a radio interview on NPR program "Here and Now" dated November 6th

http://hereandnow.wbur.org/2013/11/06/fukushima-nuclear-cleanup
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