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Red and white
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| discostar23 wrote: |
| I recently got an offer for 2500USD a month from Moscow. Which works out to about 70.000 rubles. From checking the discussions on here I figure that will be enough to live on. Correct? |
70,000 should be fine, yes. You won't be rich and you won't live in the swankiest flats in town, but you'll have enough to eat and spare cash to explore the city.
I'm earning roughly that and tend to divide my budget thus: 30k on rent (studio flat, 10 mins walk from the metro, one stop outside the circle line), roughly 1000r a day to spend on food and 'ordinary' entertainment (very much an average figure - tomorrow I'm busy with work I'll spend about 250r on lunch in the staff canteen, dinner is already in the freezing from a big cooking session at the weekend and breakfast will probably mop up the odds and sods in my fridge; today being a day off I spent closer to 2,000 on lunch with a friend, going to an exhibition and watching a basketball game). The remaining 10,000 is there for larger scale buys (stuff for the flat, travel, new clothes (which are expensive here), expensive gig tickets). It works for me.
As for $700, even though I'm a relative defender of the MacSchools on this site, that's not really enough. If you're defining 'survive' as 'not die', then you're just about OK. If you're defining 'survive' as 'have a little bit of fun before not dying' you'll struggle. Even with inclusive accommodation I'd want a guaranteed 30,000r / month income (that 1,000 a day I mentioned above). And then I'd be looking for a bit of extra work as well. |
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discostar23
Joined: 05 Nov 2009
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| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the advice already!
Fortuneately they are also throwing in the apartment. I figure it will be small. Shared with two other roommates.
I am glad to hear I won't be starving in the city. I do not think I am working for a Mcschool and the contract is only 6 months so I figure why not!
As for Red and White's comment about food. Do russian apts usually have ovens? In korea I didnt have an oven. I love making roasts. I think my roommates will like that  |
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rogan
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
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Location: at home, in France
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| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:57 am Post subject: |
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| I love making roasts. I think my roommates will like that ...........if you can afford to buy the meat. |
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Velocipedaler
Joined: 23 Jun 2009
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Location: Earth
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Red and white
Joined: 30 Sep 2007
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| rogan wrote: |
| I love making roasts. I think my roommates will like that ...........if you can afford to buy the meat. |
Haway man, the kiosk next to Dinamo metro will sell you a whole grilled chicken for 150 roubles. I guess they don't sell at a loss so I'm sure you can get a whole uncooked bird for something in the same ballpark. I'm pretty sure I saw a whole duck in the freezer for 450r the other day, but I'd run out of duck recipes long before I ran out of a whole duck.
Anyway, for people interested in food costs my last extended session in the kitchen saw me knocking up a big lamb casserole (I've stretched it to six / eight servings with help from the freezer and the microwave).
Ingredients and approx costs, all bought at the Ramstor next to Sokol metro:
lamb 'ragu' (raw) (180r for 800g)
potatos (about 30r / kg)
garlic (half a bulb, already hidden in my fridge, no idea how much it cost but I doubt it was more than 10r)
onions (about 20r / kg)
carrots (about 30r / kg)
kidney beans (50r / tin)
passata (80r / 500 ml)
two glasses of red wine (180r / 750 ml bottle, obviously optional - the wine was pretty rank, otherwise only one glass would have been cooked!)
I had to use some cooking oil as well, and there was some tap water involved to boil the potatoes if you need full disclosure of expenses.
Assuming you've got a decent freezer you can easily get six meals out of that. And the leftover onion, potato, beans and garlic made a quick fry-up livened with some sausages (150r for 10).
There's still a decent chunk of the meat in the freezer, also awaiting another culinary outpouring from me. Reservations for dinner dates can be made, but bring a better bottle of wine than the swill I was cooking with  |
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