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nomad soul
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| How common of a practice is it to get teachers to come in on these kinds of visas (as teachers)? Any estimates/guesses? |
I really have no clue as to estimates, but it does happen. If you scroll through this forum, look for subject lines that include "ICEAT," or "EdEx." But frankly, now that you know it's not the legit way to enter KSA for employment, simply avoid those potential employers that insist you get a work/business visit visa rather than a proper employment/work visa. And if your qualifications are solid, apply for direct-hire positions instead. |
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rollingk
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| Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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| They don't care that you are illegal and thus are quite limited in what you are able to do.. . and have no recourse against this employer. |
I'd say there are limits to what you are able to do in direct hire jobs also, as it's still KSA. Employees have almost no recourse whatsoever against employers here, regardless of the conditions of hire.
The only exception is if the employee is working for a western based company. As I recall Edex got taken to court in the UK as I believe there was a recruitment office there. I wonder how far one would get in taking a Saudi entity to any kind of court here, or better yet of enlisting the help of the labor board. That's the same labor board which sanctions and actually negotiates the exploitation of workers from poorer foreign countries. These are the people who could be counted on to help sort out those legitimate complaints of legally employed workers. |
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Cletus
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| While in Qassim last October, we lost our compound's store employees, and cafe workers. We also had a teacher leave when he was approached in Buraidah by immigration. The Saudi immigration folks advised the New Zealand teacher he was violating his Business visa by working as a teacher. Well that was his story. |
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plumpy nut
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| Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 4:23 am Post subject: |
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| rollingk wrote: |
As I recall Edex got taken to court in the UK as I believe there was a recruitment office there. I wonder how far one would get in taking a Saudi entity to any kind of court here, or better yet of enlisting the help of the labor board. That's the same labor board which sanctions and actually negotiates the exploitation of workers from poorer foreign countries. These are the people who could be counted on to help sort out those legitimate complaints of legally employed workers. |
There is the World Court in Europe. Win a civil case in the World Court against Saudi Arabia and the next Saudi plane that comes into Germany is incognito until they pay off. That happened to Thailand, the King's plane of all things I believe. |
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plumpy nut
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| Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 4:27 am Post subject: |
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| Cletus wrote: |
| While in Qassim last October, we lost our compound's store employees, and cafe workers. We also had a teacher leave when he was approached in Buraidah by immigration. The Saudi immigration folks advised the New Zealand teacher he was violating his Business visa by working as a teacher. Well that was his story. |
Well they didn't arrest him, and that's just one person. For now I think if you're desperate enough you can come and you probably will not be arrested. |
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