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Ludwig

Joined: 26 Apr 2004 Posts: 1096 Location: 22� 20' N, 114� 11' E
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Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Can you access internet on the boards? |
Yes. This is one of the features that is really quite good. You can also write in cursive script and it will convert it to print in a font of your choice. On this point, I must say that, as a linguist who recognises some of the (non-obvious) complexities involved in this type of endeavour, I am very impressed with this function. For it is remarkably accurate and you can soon learn to adjust your writing to a style easily parsed and processed by the character recognition parameters. (Sorry if I sound like a salesman but I am � thus far at least as these boards are new to me - really quite impressed. I believe they are a true innovation and are a real, pragmatic teaching aid.) |
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shmooj

Joined: 11 Sep 2003 Posts: 1758 Location: Seoul, ROK
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Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 9:43 am Post subject: |
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Just some of the things that you can do with an IWB....
Display anything you can on a computer i.e.
worksheets you have created
pdf files
images
the Internet (and thereby an almost infinite selection of clipart, video and audio to illustrate anything via Google or AltaVista)
videos
windows media player with the funky screensavers and the lights off (kids love this!)
You can, of course, type directly onto the board from a computer at the front of class which is superfast if you can touchtype and obviously, extremely legible.
Accessing the Internet means that you can immediately access the thousands of ready made activities for ELT already on the net especially flash animated stuff for kids and they can interact with it live, on the huge screen at the front. They love it.
You can freeze the board or blank it while you prepare the next thing and then reveal it. You can zoom in to an area on the board too.
Of course you can write on the boards too but one of the best features is that you can write over all of the above as if you had laid a screen of glass over it. So you can
Bring up a worksheet you've done in, say, Word and then fill it in with your pen to show kids, for example, how to do it for homework.
You can draw over webpages too.
You can also use functions such as spotlight which only highlights a circle you drag over the screen - great for vocab guessing games, or the blind which allows you to drag and reveal from any side of the screen.
There are loads and loads of things you can do.
Powerpoint is one of the best programs out there to use with an IWB. I use powerpoint every day. For example, today with 8 year olds, I had a powerpoint of a song we use timed to reveal words on the beat when I clicked the pen on the board. When the kids have got the hang of it, they will be doing the clicking and picking up the rhythm of the song and thereby prosodic features of English through kinasthetic associations.
You can drag and drop images around the place. You can click on a map and drag/draw it immediately in any colour on the board - great for showing people where in fact the UK is and how it is divided up.
You can even take what someone has written and select it, enlarge it, cut it, copy it, paste it, put it on a new page... so, when kids write a drop letter ON the line, instead of dropping below it, I can select it and have them drag and drop it to the right place, thereby reinforcing where the letter should be placed.
It is so versatile that it is only limited by the time and imagination that I have to put into it!
A couple more drawbacks though:
if you put the board on freeze while the countdown timer is displayed or an animation or video is displayed, it will freeze it.
if you write over a document or webpage and then remove the "glass" screen to, say, scroll down in the document, all you've written will disappear and not return when you bring back the "glass" |
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gugelhupf
Joined: 24 Jan 2004 Posts: 575 Location: Jabotabek
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Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 10:06 am Post subject: |
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I must apologise for confusing our hopeless piece of kit with what is obviously something quite different - our thing is something called a "Softboard" or "Smartboard" and is worse than useless. I can't comment on IWB's as I have never seen one.
I do use powerpoint a lot for non EFL teaching and lecturing and find it very useful and a damn sight faster than putting together a slideshow in any other medium. Trouble is, IT technology is still so damn unreliable that I always end up printing off OHP transparencies as a fallback if I'm giving an important talk. |
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Ludwig

Joined: 26 Apr 2004 Posts: 1096 Location: 22� 20' N, 114� 11' E
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Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 11:17 am Post subject: |
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'Shmooj', thank you for (another) informative post. One point caught my imagination:
| shmooj wrote: |
| Powerpoint is one of the best programs out there to use with an IWB. I use powerpoint every day. For example, today with 8 year olds, I had a powerpoint of a song we use timed to reveal words on the beat when I clicked the pen on the board. When the kids have got the hang of it, they will be doing the clicking and picking up the rhythm of the song and thereby prosodic features of English through kinasthetic associations. |
Great stuff. Really, really quite good stuff. In fact, you should seriously begin to think about putting together a paper on this process and submitting it to any one of a number of forthcoming TEFL conferences/workshops in Asia. |
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shmooj

Joined: 11 Sep 2003 Posts: 1758 Location: Seoul, ROK
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Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Ludwig wrote: |
| you should seriously begin to think about putting together a paper on this process and submitting it to any one of a number of forthcoming TEFL conferences/workshops in Asia. |
Have you been reading my jobplan? I have two weeks to submit a proposal to KOTESOL (Korea) on IT with Young Learners for this coming October. Due to time pressures, I was going to let this slide. You have encouraged me to see that I really should do shouldn't I.
You won't by any chance be there will you? |
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guest of Japan

Joined: 28 Feb 2003 Posts: 1601 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Shmooj, that was interesting. Now I want one too. |
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Gordon

Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Posts: 5309 Location: Japan
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 6:11 am Post subject: |
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Maybe I could put it on my research budget, I'm so sick of chalk.
Who makes these whiteboards? Are they portable at all? |
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shmooj

Joined: 11 Sep 2003 Posts: 1758 Location: Seoul, ROK
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Nope, they aint portable cos they come with a computer and a projector. Try lugging all that around. If moved, and from time to time even if they aren't moved, they have to be calibrated so that the pen and the marks you make are actually in the same place. So, obviously, moving them regularly would be a huge hassle in terms of hardware and then the inconvenience of having to recalibrate although this only takes twenty secs or so. |
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once again
Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Posts: 815
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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| What exactly is an interactive white board? |
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gugelhupf
Joined: 24 Jan 2004 Posts: 575 Location: Jabotabek
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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This thread has given me the impetus to have a long look at Powerpoint for a few more innovative ideas for use in the ESL classroom. Much of what I have done in the past with Powerpoint has been in a lecture situation but I'm sure there are plenty of ways to use it in a more student-centred manner - not least getting students to produce their own presentations in English as a group activity.
Shmooj's excellent idea with the song could be repeated in so many ways. Given a reliable hand-held remote mouse it would be possible to circulate the classroom to allow students to operate the controls without the disruption of bodies running back and forth to the teacher's desk. |
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SueH
Joined: 01 Feb 2003 Posts: 1022 Location: Northern Italy
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Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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Shmooj,
Thanks for your long and thought-provoking post - it really picqued my interest. There are IWBs at some of the colleges where I work, but I've never been on the training. As an ex systems analyst with a healthy scepticism about technology I've never felt I was missing much.
But like everything, until it is a universal fitting in every classroom I'll have a natural resistance based on past experience in trying to get, book, move, set-up the one video-player or whatever other piece of kit seems helpful for a particular lesson.
The other area that worries me is the tendency I've seen (not necessarily in teaching) to use equipment just because it is available, and the use of every bell and whistle, whether relevant or not.
What is your experience of the influence on lesson preparation time and do the students get disappointed if you don't produce the flash effects?
Thanks again for your post which I shall copy and put in a safe place ready for when I get on one of the courses.
Sue |
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shmooj

Joined: 11 Sep 2003 Posts: 1758 Location: Seoul, ROK
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 12:38 am Post subject: |
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| once again wrote: |
| What exactly is an interactive white board? |
looks like a fairly standard white board but there is a digital projector mounted somewhere, usually the ceiling in front of the board. Turn the computer on and the projector displays whatever you have on the comp on the board. Using a special pen, you can write on the board. Using special software you can do other stuff on the board (see my long post above).
All this is virtual i.e. no markers, no chalk and can be printed out or saved to disk or screen captured and emailed to students if desired.
To SueH, thanks for the appreciation and in answer to your query about how this has affected prep time etc. It was a fairly steep learning curve and, yes, for those of us who were not as geeky as we should have been, it has meant a lot more extra hours. But once someone produces a piece of good material, it is very quick to copy this, personalise it and "Save As" so that you have your own version. Now that we are all producing this stuff, it is actually speeding up planning time because we all have ready made flipcharts, powerpoints done and share them freely.
As for the students, no, they are not showing a desperate need for a fix of "the board" each class. We do a lot of other stuff too e.g. music, crafts, games on desks or round the class. With kids I usually do two major parts of the class at the board. The first is always an activity from the web I have found as a warmup for the first ten mins. THen, later in the class, we do something I have prepared or borrowed from another teacher. This usually lasts 20-30 mins depending on whether there is also a game on the board involved. So, for the rest of the 90 min class, there are plenty of other things to do. |
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once again
Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Posts: 815
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 3:23 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks for that smoo...very kind..we have projectors and computers..can they be converted with software...or is it all in the hardware...? |
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shmooj

Joined: 11 Sep 2003 Posts: 1758 Location: Seoul, ROK
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Posted: Mon May 31, 2004 9:19 am Post subject: |
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If you have a digital projector and a computer I would think you only need the board, software and pens to go about finishing the job. HOwever, this has got to be the most expensive part of the kit.
no idea on prices.
Bear in mind that if your IWB goes, you don't even have a surface to write on normally. Your computer can stall, crash or simply die on you. Your projector bulb could blow. This has happened to a few teachers here over the last few months. Lesson materials flushed down the swanee....
veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery frustrating! |
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ls650

Joined: 10 May 2003 Posts: 3484 Location: British Columbia
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 1:30 am Post subject: |
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In my day we used a good old-fashioned chalkboard - none of this new-fangled whiteboard stuff.
And we liked it that way. Dammit, we loved it!  |
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