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damn_my_eyes



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wonder if Scots will have trouble getting TEFL jobs if the Yes campaign wins. If you have to say Scottish instead of UK that could put a few employers off.

I have trouble understanding what half of them are saying Very Happy
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Xie Lin



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tomorrow's the day! Smile

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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

damn_my_eyes wrote:
Wonder if Scots will have trouble getting TEFL jobs if the Yes campaign wins. If you have to say Scottish instead of UK that could put a few employers off.

I have trouble understanding what half of them are saying Very Happy


Surely no more than saying American, Australian, or whatever?
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MuscatGary



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They could certainly end up having trouble getting jobs in the EU if they don't manage to negotiate their own membership quickly after a yes vote. I personally think it will be a no vote based purely on what the bookies are offering.
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has there been any definitive answer to the whole EU membership question? Lots of conflicting reports saying that Scotland would remain an EU member, in the same way that RofUK will remain a member , even though the union ceases legally. Others say that Scotland needs to be approved by all other member states in order for it to join/re-join.
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope at least they'll get their missing t back... : )
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The UK is already in and doesn't need to join but Scotland would become a 'new' country in 2016 and would need to satisfy the criteria. The Spanish are angry about the referendum stirring up problems for them and have said they would try to veto Scottish membership. Latest betting is 7/2 for yes and 1/5 for no with Ladbrokes so I think no is getting more and more likely.
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damn_my_eyes



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Yes campaign seem very vague about some of the big decisions for the future. They're expecting people to vote with their hearts rather than their heads.
I'd think Alec Salmond just telling everyone that the future will be prosperous and trouble free isn't good enough for a largely well-educated electorate.

Who knows though !
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dunno. It all seems vague. Scotland did join the EU, as a country in the UK. At least that is the argument I have heard. Might as well ask the new country of RofUK to re-apply too...
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today is the D-day for Scotland, who will be the next King of Scotland? Laughing
1. Alex Salmond
2. David Cameron
3. Franz Duke of Bavaria (descended from James I, who united the English and Scottish thrones in 1603).

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scot47



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever the outcome Elizabeth remains monarch. She may have to re-style herself as "Queen Elizabeth The First of Scots" instead of the badge "QEII" which was so controversial when she came to the throne in 1953. (Since QEI was Queen of England but NOT of Scotland !)
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear scot47,

Hope you're voting early and often. Very Happy

Regards,
John
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Phil_K



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really torn on this one. Politically, I'm a Conservative (big C) AKA The Conservative and UNIONIST Party. On the other hand, I'm proudly ENGLISH, more than British, and don't really see any difference with or without the Scottish. Secretly, I'm looking for a yes-vote as I love a bit of political upheaval. That's why I'm more of a big "C" than a small one.
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
Whatever the outcome Elizabeth remains monarch. She may have to re-style herself as "Queen Elizabeth The First of Scots" instead of the badge "QEII" which was so controversial when she came to the throne in 1953. (Since QEI was Queen of England but NOT of Scotland !)


What?!!!! You mean no Socialist Republic of Scotland!!!????

What's the point, then? Sad
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Mushkilla



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
Whatever the outcome Elizabeth remains monarch. She may have to re-style herself as "Queen Elizabeth The First of Scots" instead of the badge "QEII" which was so controversial when she came to the throne in 1953. (Since QEI was Queen of England but NOT of Scotland !)

Indeed scotty, Alex Salmond has declared that an independent Scotland would retain the Queen as its Head of State.

"If Scotland were to vote for independence next week, Elizabeth II, Queen of the United Kingdom of Southern Britain and Northern Ireland, and Elizabeth I, Queen of Scots, would have to similarly come to an understanding on a great many issues. Doubtlessly, however, she would have a gentler time of it."
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2014/09/17/akaash-maharaj-elizabeth-ii-queen-of-the-uk-could-become-elizabeth-i-queen-of-scots-that-makes-things-complicated/
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