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nomad soul
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| You're evading my question. What is the basis for your premise that Saudi universities rank lower than most US community colleges? |
Does it matter?
Won't the answers to my questions point to what's "real" and what's "imagined"? Saudi universities may rank higher than others in the ME, but comparing them to even the lowest schools in the West is ridiculous.
Another question, cultural differences aside , and just focusing on academics...would you rather send your child to the top Saudi university or to any accredited university in the West? |
Again, answering my question with more questions. Anyway, I believe you mean stereotypes aside... But then I'm not the one making blanket statements and comparisons. In fact, even my students are required to give an explanation when taking a position.
By the way, if I had a child, he/she would choose where to attend university; it wouldn't be my decision. My role is to be supportive, just as my parents supported and encouraged me.
| lastly, hocus pocus wrote: |
| Answer: From my own limited observations. Are they wrong? |
If you're basing your assumptions on the learning habits and challenges of the students you teach, you should know there's no correlation between the ability to acquire a language and an individual's intelligence.
Khalas. |
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hocus pocus
Joined: 29 May 2013
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Location: Continental drifting
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| Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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...and you didn't answer my questions.
Go ahead and support your childrens' choice to attend a Saudi University.
Also, don't characterize my observations as stereotypes and I won't characterize yours as sanctimonious. Deal? |
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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| Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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Dear hocus pocus,
"What is the basis for your premise that Saudi universities rank lower than most US community colleges?"
"Does it matter? "
If this is the question you're referring to, indeed it does matter since the answer would clarify whether your posts are facts, supported by research, or subjective opinions, drawn only from your own experience.
If the latter, then you'd need to have very extensive experience in both many Saudi universities and many US community colleges to have at least some credibility.
Regards,
John |
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nomad soul
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:15 am Post subject: |
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| hocus pocus wrote: |
...and you didn't answer my questions.
Go ahead and support your childrens' choice to attend a Saudi University.
Also, don't characterize my observations as stereotypes and I won't characterize yours as sanctimonious. Deal? |
Since you're so insistent...
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| Would you rather have a Doctor from Saudi or from pretty much any other country in the world? |
My decision certainly wouldn't be based on nationality or ethnicity. I would want the doctor with the best training and reputation, and if he/she happens to be Saudi, that's who I'd choose.
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| Would you rather have a Saudi trained pilot or one trained at a USA community college? |
Not an issue---I've flown Saudi Airlines several times without incident. Besides, when booking a flight, who the heck pays attention to the nationalities of the pilots? Seriously. The fares, flying times, layover time, airline safety record, etc., are more important to most people.
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| Another question, cultural differences aside , and just focusing on academics...would you rather send your child to the top Saudi university or to any accredited university in the West? |
I'm no longer in KSA nor do I have children. But if I did, as non-Arabic speakers and non-Saudis, they wouldn't be eligible to enroll in many of KSA's universities. Moreover, their k-12 education would have followed the American educational system and curriculum; therefore, it is reasonable to assume they would continue their education at a US university. Anyway, there are too many ifs---assumptions and variables---involved to answer such a hypothetical question.
Any other questions? |
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plumpy nut
Joined: 12 Mar 2011
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| Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:48 am Post subject: Re: Big Joke |
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| nomad soul wrote: |
You're evading my question. What is the basis for your premise that Saudi universities rank lower than most US community colleges? |
People on the forum are basing their assessment of Saudi Universities on the preponderance of the evidence in a way. It would be very difficult for people to believe otherwise to what most of the people on this forum would say without some strong evidence to the contrary. |
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johnslat
Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
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Dear plumpy nut,
" . . . on the preponderance of the evidence in a way."
What "way" would that be? Could you provide a link to "the preponderance?"
I have this prejudice against opinions that masquerade as facts. 
Regards,
John |
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sicklyman
Joined: 02 Feb 2013
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| Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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| nomad soul wrote: |
| Khalas. |
It seems you've been out of the country so long, you've forgotten what that means  |
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nomad soul
Joined: 31 Jan 2010
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| Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| sicklyman wrote: |
| nomad soul wrote: |
| Khalas. |
It seems you've been out of the country so long, you've forgotten what that means |
Nah, having lived in four Mid East countries, it's permanently in my vocabulary. I even say it whenever I'm back in the US.  |
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