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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.google.ru/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#newwindow=1&q=paul+robeson+jazz

Paul Robeson. Victim of McCarthy witch-hunts. Great American artist.

Where's the Hollywood biopic, eh?!
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Mushkilla



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The issue is with jazz music not political views of musicians.
Paul Robeson was blacklisted during the Mccarthy era because of his political views against social injustices and his affiliation with the comrade of the Kremlin, not because of his jazz music.

No jazz musician was oppressed or forced to leave the USA because of his jazz music. But in the Soviet era, the jazz musicians were oppressed because of their jazz music (considered as the "wrong music" and as alien to the people).
This is the difference between the two models.
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So that's all right then? Be oppressed because of your skin colour, not your musical tastes. For your belief in a better future for humanity, it is ok to be forced out of your job, have your civil liberities riscinded, passport confiscated?

Hmmm...
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esl_prof



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnslat wrote:
Dear esl_prof,

You mean the cultural resistance that was long ago co-opted by corporate record companies and iTunes? Very Happy

Regards,
John


Alas! The domination system has always sought to deradicalize the resistance.
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Catchy tune!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0HuGOlDzqQ
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mushkilla wrote:
As far as I know, the American jazz musicians were/are not oppressed, and were free to perform everywhere and anytime without constraint from anybody.

Not exactly. Although the popular jazz bands were able to perform at the better white entertainment venues in the US, black musicians and singers weren't allowed to stay or eat at those same establishments. Do an Internet search on American civil rights Jim Crow.
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Sashadroogie



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too true, Nomad Soul. Just one of the many deviations in Mushkilla's posts that needed political correction : )
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