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Sashadroogie
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Some for affirmatives? Any for negatives? \dice it any way you like, but some examples can't best be explained by classifying what the words ARE, but what they DO...
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artemisia
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| Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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From what I've seen and read these terms do overlap and it is debatable how they should be classified. Determiners, of which quantifiers are a category, generally come first before (other) adjectives in a sentence. https://www.englishclub.com/grammar/adjectives-order-before-noun.htm
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| The quantifier more appears to be unique amongst quantifiers in that it can be preceded (but not followed) by a cardinal number. Thus, we can say six more but not six many, six several, or six some. |
Yes, more does seem to be distinct as a quantifier in that it can follow numerals and other quantifiers can’t. Regarding your initial question, I think this is the easiest explanation for students:
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| In any case, the simple answer to my student's question as to why not "six weeks more of winter" rather than "six more weeks of winter" should have been that the quantifier more (or any quantifier for that matter) should precede but not follow the noun. |
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esl_prof
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| Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 4:29 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the affirmation, Artemisia! This has been an interesting discussion. |
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artemisia
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| Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 12:44 am Post subject: |
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| I enjoyed and found it useful too. There aren't always opportunities as a teacher to have this kind of shared knowledge exchange. |
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