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PSB now paying bounties for fake China foreign ESL teachers?
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Walsh



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 2:02 pm    Post subject: Re: The definition of profiteering... Reply with quote

Fergie wrote:
Here is the definition of an "opportunist":

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20150216202244AAD4563

If this guy carries through with his plan what percentage of China's foreign teacher population is about to "relocate"?


Hey Mr. Jelly Roll, I found this at the above link. Is this you?

"Screw you guys - I just made 30,000 rmb this week and feel not even an ounce of guilt about it. It is these fake teachers that flood the market with their incompetence and keep the rest of us from getting paid the same as Korea or Japan or Singapore - $7,000 a month! So why the fu*k do you care so much about a bunch of losers who can't find a real job back home? To collect your reward just go to any PSB office in China or consulate abroad and just tell the receptionist you want to speak with the security officer. They don't even ask for your name and you get a numbered token like a casino chip that they log in a book. After you give them the information you must come back in 30 days to pick up your tax-free cash.

I make more money doing this than as a white slave working for a black school. After I hire some TAs in other schools to be my agents, I will probably earn 50,000 a month or maybe even more. I make no apologies."
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JellyRoll



Joined: 20 Dec 2014
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Location: Canada

PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:23 am    Post subject: hmmm.... Reply with quote

Bud Powell wrote:
My rule now is to speak ONLY with the FAO of the school.

Unless you are in-country and can visit the school and MEET the FA Officer, you can never be sure to whom you are speaking. Only once did I contact a school directly and actually speak with someone whom I could verify actually worked in the FAO. Every other time, I spoke to an intermediary (i.e., a recruiter) who referred me to someone else who sent me a contract.

There is one recruiter from Australia who will put you in touch with someone at the school. I haven't dealt with him in awhile.


Except if you're really on the ball, you get the school to provide you with their SAFEA license, AND talk to other FT's, AND check the name of the principal on the documentation of the Visa application papers you send to the Embassy. Also helps if you know someone who worked there previously and now works somewhere else - especially if the only reason they left was because of the time-limit on employment at one school.
Also, it's worth checking the blacklists - and the whitelists......plus, being friends with many old students is very advantageous - they can make the calls and do the research.
There is no reason for anyone to get scammed these days.
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The Great North



Joined: 24 Feb 2015
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bud Powell wrote:
My rule now is to speak ONLY with the FAO of the school.

Unless you are in-country and can visit the school and MEET the FA Officer, you can never be sure to whom you are speaking. Only once did I contact a school directly and actually speak with someone whom I could verify actually worked in the FAO.


I agree with the direct approach to the FAO as well. But now with this blood money BS, any Chinese staffer in the school office who needs to make quick money might develop this attitude here https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20150216202244AAD4563 and cause a lot of grief for a lot of people. When I first came to China I admittedly was tricked into coming in on an F visa. But back then nobody was even checking visas of expats.
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weigookin74



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

asiannationmc wrote:
500 rmb rewards for being a snitch. Integrity is cheaply bought in the PRC.


Really? Getting rid of folks who would come in and drive down legal teachers wages is lacking in integrity? Drive them out. Let them go home and take a degree like we did.
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asiannationmc



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Really? Getting rid of folks who would come in and drive down legal teachers wages is lacking in integrity? Drive them out. Let them go home and take a degree like we did.


It is one thing to take down folk because it is your job and another to obtain trust and friendship to use it against someone to gain financial rewards from betrayal.

Remember a Rat is just a Rat and even the authorities don't respect em'.
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JellyRoll



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 6:19 pm    Post subject: Re: The definition of profiteering... Reply with quote

Walsh wrote:
Fergie wrote:
Here is the definition of an "opportunist":

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20150216202244AAD4563

If this guy carries through with his plan what percentage of China's foreign teacher population is about to "relocate"?


Hey Mr. Jelly Roll, I found this at the above link. Is this you?

"Screw you guys - I just made 30,000 rmb this week and feel not even an ounce of guilt about it. It is these fake teachers that flood the market with their incompetence and keep the rest of us from getting paid the same as Korea or Japan or Singapore - $7,000 a month! So why the fu*k do you care so much about a bunch of losers who can't find a real job back home? To collect your reward just go to any PSB office in China or consulate abroad and just tell the receptionist you want to speak with the security officer. They don't even ask for your name and you get a numbered token like a casino chip that they log in a book. After you give them the information you must come back in 30 days to pick up your tax-free cash.

I make more money doing this than as a white slave working for a black school. After I hire some TAs in other schools to be my agents, I will probably earn 50,000 a month or maybe even more. I make no apologies."


Nope. Not me.....and I'm Ms/Dr JellyRoll, thank you very much.
Maybe helpful not to include scammers in with the exposers. Let it be known that I WILL turn in ANYONE I find with a fake visa or fake degrees - not for money either - don't give a hoot about that - but I DO care about the losers and scammers are using the students/schools here as an "easy ride" - China doesn't need them. It's hard enough here for legit expats/teachers without having to deal with the fallout from the scammers and fake backpackers/paedo's.
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JellyRoll



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 6:23 pm    Post subject: Scammers Reply with quote

weigookin74 wrote:
asiannationmc wrote:
500 rmb rewards for being a snitch. Integrity is cheaply bought in the PRC.


Really? Getting rid of folks who would come in and drive down legal teachers wages is lacking in integrity? Drive them out. Let them go home and take a degree like we did.


ABSOLUTELY!
Get rid of the scammers and fakers - as well as the fake recruiters who hire the numpties.
There is NO excuse for "stupid".

Only pity is that China does not hold the "recruiter" responsible also. If I had my way, I'd do as in Saudi - off to Chop-Chop-Square for the lot of the crooked b-stards.
Go EARN a degree.......like 95% of us did.
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asiannationmc



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'd do as in Saudi - off to Chop-Chop-Square for the lot of the crooked b-stards.


Isn't this what they do to snitches. When you were young boy, was it a life long ambition to grow up to betray those you work with and live around? If you would be so proud to inform, why not publish all information as to your snitching so the world of FT's can see what kind of person you are. I mean if you behind it, then shout it out from the rooftops, however, unlikely that would be the case as snitchin is done on the sly and int the dark recess of integrity and no one wants it to be known tht they have worked for a government that is far less than respected, world wide.
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