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Shanghai Noon
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| Deats wrote: |
| Ignore the advice about your boyfriend being able to come on your Z visa and work. If you aren't married, then he can't come as your spouse. End of story. So he could get a 1 month tourist visa which is absolutely no use. |
Actually, there is a way of doing this. If your consulate is willing to do it, you can get a statutory declaration that says you are a commonlaw couple. SOME provinces will accept this as proof of marriage. Beware that this can affect your tax status at home. |
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littlelauren86
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Location: Korea
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| Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 1:21 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the information guys. I'm leaning toward the job in the big city because I think there would be more opportunities to make money for him, find good privates, etc. Plus there would be more to do, so it would be more exciting. I will ask about any opportunities for him at the same school. He also told me he has contacts from an adult academy that has locations all over china, so I'm sure that would help tremendously.
We are both from the same country. So we can make that trip home to see family, and then apply for that Z visa.
I've heard a bit about China from people who have lived in both places (China and Korea). Mostly that it is dirtier, but people seem to complain about the same things in both countries so I'm not worried about it. At the very least a change in scenery would be nice. |
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hdeth
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| Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 1:31 am Post subject: |
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| littlelauren86 wrote: |
I've heard a bit about China from people who have lived in both places (China and Korea). Mostly that it is dirtier, but people seem to complain about the same things in both countries so I'm not worried about it. At the very least a change in scenery would be nice. |
Really? From everything I've heard and read living in China is significantly different than living in Korea. Some things are similar but a lot aren't. Please post in a year about what you think. I haven't taught in Korea so can't compare the two. |
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vikeologist
Joined: 07 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 3:14 am Post subject: |
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OP- Your query was entirely well composed; except what do you consider a smaller city.
There's tier 1,2, 3 and 4 cities in China, (though there's differences in where exactly where some cities fall into this).
It's possible that there are some small (by Chinese standards) cities that may pose some problems for your boyfriend getting work. Some 'new' cities may be booming because of growing industries, and the English language market hasn't caught up with the rise in prosperity. I'm saying possible, because it's also possible that in the smallest of Chinese cities, your boyfriend might be extremely in demand. There aren't enough English teachers in China, especially in language mills.
However, the odds are very much in his favour, and if by small you mean somewhere other than Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou and Xian (tier 1) then it will probably still be a pretty big city, and even worth checking whether your employer is close to where the language schools are based.
The potential danger is that in a tier 3 city, there might be absolutely no good language schools to work in and your boyfriend will be unhappy, especially if he has experience of working somewhere professional.
Anyway, as long as your city has a couple of million people, (and your school is in the city, rather than in the middle of nowhere vaguely near the city) your boyfriend will have a nice range of options of gainful employment, as per the replies on this thread from the non-condescending adults. |
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Markness
Joined: 30 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 4:55 am Post subject: |
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Wow, people are just a little condescending on this thread. i think it has to do with the OP mentioning she's choosing between international school offers. i've spent 3 years in korea and 3 in china, and honestly, while china is a bit rough around the edges, if you've been fine in korea, you should be just fine in china.
OP, i'd suggest you ask the schools you're interested in if they need an EAL support teacher with <insert his credentials here>. like another poster mentioned before me, oftentimes an international school will be able to offer up some kind of work if it means securing a certified teacher for a post they really need. at my international school, spouses have been hired on as EAL support staff, as well as teaching assistants and SEN aids (by a parent). if he's hired on by the school then they'd obviously provide a Z visa for him as well since a spousal visa wouldn't be applicable in this situation.
best of luck! |
What do the whipper-snappers say?
^^THIS^^
Babe? In all candor, check your privilege. And the same goes for addressing the OP by name to cast a paternal, protective tone while chastising a woman for... wait for it... her tone-- referred to as man-splaining-- while other posts (and entire threads) are filled with insinuation and entendre about dating, marriage and divorce, i.e., conquests. |
Check our privilege... rofl. Western sociological terms have no use here. Hopefully they die off shortly too. The OP had some questions replied to and had some snarky remarks, this has nothing to do with her being a woman. No need to defend our protected species of white women! Save them from their oppression/patriarchal white male overlords of daveseslcafe!
There are maybe one or two people who occasionally post about their conquests on here out of dozens of posters. Lots of people are happily married or in a relationship. There is praise for the local gals, and generally speaking.. people in these sorts of relationships that take them seriously work out a lot better than they would back in their home country. Hardly grounds for being womanizers as you'd like to point us out to be.
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AKChina
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| Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 4:59 am Post subject: |
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| There are maybe one or two people who occasionally post about their conquests on here out of dozens of posters. |
In that case, let me be the first one to declare on this thread that the main advantage of working in Asia is that it's easy to bang the local girls! 
We need more talk about conquests! |
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Non Sequitur
Joined: 23 May 2010
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| Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 8:28 am Post subject: |
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Any city big enough to have a legit International School will have ample opportunities for an ESL teacher.
By 'legit' I mean a school that teaches expat kids as well as wealthy locals and follows some kind of international curriculum i.e. the Baccalaureate.
An international will expect to supply an apartment and the best of all worlds would be for the school to permit you to have your BF cohabit and for him to have a FT position at a nearby uni that offers either an apartment or an accommodation allowance.
There will be opportunities for him to do privates but I suggest you leave that until established for Sept start.
The end of the hiring season is approaching as someone has mentioned.
Keep his visa (Z) process completely separate from yours.
FTs at unis I have worked for continue to arrive well into Sept but an international will want you there at semester start.
The take away there is, get your job cemented in and then look at BF's situation.
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wangdaning
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| Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 8:47 am Post subject: |
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| To me an international school is any school that is validated to teach at the level of the accrediting body (student make up is not so important). |
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nomad-ish
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| Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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| To me an international school is any school that is validated to teach at the level of the accrediting body (student make up is not so important). |
there are some schools that offer an accredited international curriculum in addition to only accepting foreign passport holders. with the kind of school you mentioned above, you need to watch out for those high school programs in china which are just intent on getting kids the grades to apply for western universities - by any means necessary.
| littlelauren86 wrote: |
| I've heard a bit about China from people who have lived in both places (China and Korea). Mostly that it is dirtier, but people seem to complain about the same things in both countries so I'm not worried about it. At the very least a change in scenery would be nice. |
yeah, i'd definitely agree that it's dirtier and more crowded, but i personally find that there's more to see in terms of historical sites, cultural landmarks, and some great hiking opportunities. the language is harder than korean as well, but there are lots of language exchange opportunities available if you're interested. |
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3701 W.119th
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| Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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| I interviewed with a university in Chengdu to teach English. They asked me if I would teach History and Philosophy (they'd seen my degree transcript). I told them I wasn't qualified to teach anything beyond EFL (I only had a CELTA). They said it wasn't a problem. I quickly said no thanks. |
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Non Sequitur
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I think home-country certificated teachers like OP need to keep the status of the international school in mind. After all they presumably intend to return home and continue their teaching career.
Better to have Clifford School (Guangzhou) in your CV, which home country employers recognise, than Uncle Ho's International in Bohunkville. |
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buravirgil
Joined: 23 Jan 2014
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Location: Jiangxi Province, China
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| Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Non Sequitur wrote: |
I think home-country certificated teachers like OP need to keep the status of the international school in mind. After all they presumably intend to return home and continue their teaching career.
Better to have Clifford School (Guangzhou) in your CV, which home country employers recognise, than Uncle Ho's International in Bohunkville. |
For what it's worth (practically nothing), I don't believe education is as prone to (or defined by) this sort of consideration. I see it trotted out on this board too often for many understandable reasons and perspectives, but any notion that working in "Bohunkville" is inherently less of an experience than any renowned metropolis is shallow. If a group of learners has been assembled, by whom and where isn't as important as the goals and duration of a tenure. |
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Non Sequitur
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| Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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My post was about the OP's career not about the inherent worth of education.
Let's get onboard with advice to her. |
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buravirgil
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| Posted: Thu May 28, 2015 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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My post was about the OP's career not about the inherent worth of education.
Let's get onboard with advice to her. |
I believe I have. And if a disagreement prompts an admonishment, perhaps I'm not the one with a misapprehension. |
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hdeth
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| 3701 W.119th wrote: |
| I interviewed with a university in Chengdu to teach English. They asked me if I would teach History and Philosophy (they'd seen my degree transcript). I told them I wasn't qualified to teach anything beyond EFL (I only had a CELTA). They said it wasn't a problem. I quickly said no thanks. |
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Why? Teaching history or philosophy sounds more interesting than EFL and you might know more about it than some of the Chinese professors. They are very much focused on research projects because that's where they earn their money. They get paid peanuts for teaching. |
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