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American wanted in killing of Cecil the lion
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peripatetic_soul



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 8:26 pm    Post subject: American wanted in killing of Cecil the Lion Reply with quote

Dear Johnslat,
To answer your question, I believe news mentioned that the U.S. is the worst offender of this type of "sports activity" compared to other nations (well, I can think of a few comparable ones that remain covert or swept under the Persian rug), so to single out the poor DDS would, as I deduced from the ensuing comments, be unfair and discriminatory, i.e., why make this guy the scapegoat simply because of all the media hype? Expect a lot of waffling. So what else is new!

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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear peripatetic_soul,

Ah, the old "But so many people do it" fallacy as a explanation/justification for doing something illegal, unethical or immoral.

Well, I hope you're wrong. Too bad the IRS isn't involved. That "But so many people do it - why single out me" argument doesn't work too well with them. Very Happy

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John
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maxand



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

off topic, does anyone have Zimbabwe currency? It would be cool to own one hundred trillion dollars Laughing

seriously, really sad.....GDP per capita: 953.38 USD
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And it's 166 on a list of 194 - the lowest: Somalia with $133

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John
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esl_prof



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnslat wrote:
Dear esl_prof,

Any particular reason for thinking a weaseling-out will take place?

Regards,
John


Dear John,

Let me answer your question with a question. Can you name one U.S.-born citizen (not naturalized) who has ever been extradited by the U.S. government to a third-world country?

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ESL Prof
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 1:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear esl_prof,

Darn, I lost that list of all the US citizens extradited to 3rd world countries. Very Happy

Well, from memory I know that US citizens HAVE been extradited to Mexico (but I wouldn't want to classify that as a third-world country).

Incidentally, isn't it about time that term (third-world) got a well-deserved retirement? Very Happy

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John
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buravirgil



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The term 3rd World: Its Rise and Fall Wall Street Journal

7 Brits for every Yank The Telegraph

Bob Zoellick, the president of the World Bank, grandly declared that “2009 saw the end of what was known as the third world.” The Economist

Getting to know the good people of OECD

Emerging nations satisfies many, mostly capitalists recasting banana republics as engines of a world economy. The majority nations emphasizes that developed nations are not the dominant situation. The Global South confuses most and makes many (wrongly) suspicious. My favorite (other than developed/developing) is periphery, semi-periphery, and core.
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peripatetic_soul



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 12:13 pm    Post subject: American wanted in killing of Cecil the Lion Reply with quote

In today's news:

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/NYC-Empire-State-Building-Light-Show-Endangered-Species-Projection-320398192.html

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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear buravirgil.

I suspect the most "PC" terms are "developing" and "developed" nations - although the unwarranted implication there is that the "development" has been completed in the latter.

http://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/idAFJOE63D0QF20100414

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John
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buravirgil



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnslat wrote:
Dear buravirgil.

I suspect the most "PC" terms are "developing" and "developed" nations - although the unwarranted implication there is that the "development" has been completed in the latter.

http://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/idAFJOE63D0QF20100414

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John
Can we retire the term "PC"? Smile

Did you not have the time to click and scan the links provided in my post before responding with your own?
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear buravirgil,

I looked at them - but saw nothing there to prevent my offering my own opinion.

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John
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buravirgil



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why the Reuter's article about Bob Zoellick? That the Economist link didn't cover?

Developed/developing is the most widely used/accepted distinction, PC or not. I merely noted competing examples/trends. What prompted my reply to your post to esl_prof was an admonition without alternative.
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear buravirgil,

Just what "admonition" are you referring to? I'm aware that there are alternative terms.

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John
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buravirgil



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnslat wrote:
Incidentally, isn't it about time that term (third-world) got a well-deserved retirement? Very Happy
This one.

...as in to earnestly advise/urge
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johnslat



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2015 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear buravirgil,

An odd word choice to my mind since to admonish usually has a negative, scolding sort of meaning.

Also, I was unaware that "admonitions" had to be accompanied by "alternatives." Consequences, perhaps (Don't do that again or I'll kill you).

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John
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