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CANDLES

Joined: 01 Nov 2011 Posts: 605 Location: Wandering aimlessly.....
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 10:33 am Post subject: |
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| Oh come on! Do you earn £4000 + and it being tax free in this UK? Didn't realise the UK was a Tax Haven! |
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CANDLES

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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 10:38 am Post subject: |
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Teachers were being paid that salary in 2009 and now around 3000 onwards, but Vocational Colleges are paying around 2000-2500.
Nothing to do with self worth.... However my worth is unlimited  |
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yep
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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I think 3000 plus benefits should be the least anyone comes out for. There are higher and lower paying jobs out there obviously.
If more people refused jobs based on salary, the higher the average salary would then become. |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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| yep wrote: |
| If more people refused jobs based on salary, the higher the average salary would then become. |
That's not likely to happen because 1) there are always job seekers willing to accept salaries others reject; 2) mediocre qualifications and experience get lukewarm pay; 3) trying to milk a higher salary from employers that operate as profit-making businesses is fruitless; and 4) EFL teachers aren't at the level of professors. |
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scot47

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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Salaries for EFLing in KSA are not astronomical. BUT remember it can be a cheap place to live and you get housing provided.. |
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FrenchConnexion
Joined: 22 Jan 2015 Posts: 48
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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Nomad Soul posted a realistic reply. 4000 BP... No idea where you get that for an EFL lecturer position. Maybe Aramco, for males, otherwise a good salary here is around 14 000 SR. EFL lecturer's salaries are definitely not astronomical in KSA, nowadays at least. I do not find what is advertised on job ads on reeds.co.uk or here to be anywhere near 4000 BP. Correct me if I'm wrong, though, like, paste an ad or something. |
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scot47

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Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2015 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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BP ?
It is £
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yep
Joined: 24 Jun 2014 Posts: 33
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 9:03 am Post subject: |
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I guess they'r not the average salary, but the jobs are out there. Aramco / OilGas / Military / CoE all pay around that figure.
We could go into the endless swings and roundabouts conversation about whether your paying for flights or getting your own accommodation etc. etc. ad nauseam.
We'r all here for money, why settle for less? |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:23 am Post subject: |
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| yep wrote: |
| I guess they'r not the average salary, but the jobs are out there. Aramco / OilGas / Military / CoE all pay around that figure. |
However, this thread is regarding female teachers, who obviously have limited teaching opportunities compared to males. So nix oil and gas domains off that list.  |
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nomad soul

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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:35 am Post subject: |
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| Your right there Nomad, same goes for military jobs. If I was a MOD EDIT i'd look for CoE jobs. |
If you were a woman, you'd be limited to CoE and university positions anyway, unless you were experienced and licensed to teach content in Aramco or private/international schools. |
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CANDLES

Joined: 01 Nov 2011 Posts: 605 Location: Wandering aimlessly.....
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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Perhaps he's a RAYMOND CHANDLER fan! |
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Mr. Kalgukshi Mod Team


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Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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Sexist comments are best left at home, your favorite bar or wherever you feel comfortable using such terminology. Using them here will see you gone.
Es verdad. |
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flannery2015
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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I have an interview with Oxford Partnership in a few weeks and would love to hear from anyone working on the other campuses (Ar'ar or Al Qurayyat)- I haven't worked in KSA before and my instinct is to try a year working for one of the colleges (have offers from King Saud bin Abulaziz and others) and then try working for the Partnership when I am a little more acclimated and have better spoken Arabic.
Please PM me or post any thoughts or experience. |
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nomad soul

Joined: 31 Jan 2010 Posts: 11454 Location: The real world
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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| flannery2015 wrote: |
| I haven't worked in KSA before and my instinct is to try a year working for one of the colleges (have offers from King Saud bin Abulaziz and others) and then try working for the Partnership when I am a little more acclimated and have better spoken Arabic. |
Teaching in a prep year program at an established university is generally a better gig than the numerous Colleges of Excellence (vocational schools) that have popped up over the past couple of years. Also, if you have a TEFL-related MA and a year or two of experience, stay with direct-hire university opportunities. |
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CANDLES

Joined: 01 Nov 2011 Posts: 605 Location: Wandering aimlessly.....
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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Flannery2015
You don't need Arabic when teaching English in KSA.....that gets DRUMMED into everyones' head.....on the campus, in classroom, in fact wherever there is a collection of students!
Secondly I cannot believe you would turn down university jobs to work in god-forsaken places in Vocational Colleges. Doesn't make sense irrespective of whether you have teaching experience or not; if the opportunity has been given to you for KSU, PNU, etc, my advice would be to take it because those universities are in Riyadh rather than Border towns with Yemen,,etc.
I worked with teachers who didn't even have degree never mind teaching qualifications and they were at PNU and KSU! |
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