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Non Sequitur
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I think the bigger law and accounting firms offer far more than straight accounting and lawyer-ing to clients, including a wide range of consultancy services.
Still these considerations are way in the distance for OP.
That said we are agreed I think that the most valuable thing you can take away from China is the language. |
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou
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In the U.S., it is common for people with an MA or PhD to work abroad to get classroom experience in order to teach in an American university.
Since the OP is Australian, this isn't likely to help him, but there is always sales. Australia does a lot of business with China. The experience in China might help him land an international sales job. |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2015 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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| OhBudPowellWhereArtThou wrote: |
| Since the OP is Australian, this isn't likely to help him, but there is always sales. Australia does a lot of business with China. The experience in China might help him land an international sales job. |
However, keep in mind that Chinese Australians are currently the third largest immigrant group in AUS. They have both a linguistic and cultural advantage over the OP. |
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou
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I believe that Australian MA programs and U.K. MA programs are one-year programs. American MA programs are two-year stints that require a thesis and 36-42 contact hours for the duration of the program. Canadian MA programs don't attract attention by American universities for this reason.
Correct me if I am wrong. |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:41 am Post subject: |
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| OhBudPowellWhereArtThou wrote: |
I believe that Australian MA programs and U.K. MA programs are one-year programs. American MA programs are two-year stints that require a thesis and 36-42 contact hours for the duration of the program. Canadian MA programs don't attract attention by American universities for this reason.
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That's about right; Master's degree programs in the US generally entail two years of study for a total of 33-36ish credit hours. Full-time students usually can complete their degree in about 18 months. There's also what's known as a sequential master's (i.e., a second degree at the same university and through the same department), which only requires completion of the core courses and no electives. That means the program can be completed in a shorter time. That's my situation; I already have an MA in Teaching and am about to finish a Master of Educational Technology for a total of just 21 credit hours. (I also lucked out with an alumni discount and a scholarship.)
By the way, if you're referring specifically to TESOL-related MAs, be aware there are plenty of US programs with a practical component rather than a thesis. Do an Internet search using: MA TESOL program practicum and you'll see link after link of American MA TESOL programs that include teaching practice. |
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cloud_pleaser
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| OhBudPowellWhereArtThou wrote: |
I believe that Australian MA programs and U.K. MA programs are one-year programs. American MA programs are two-year stints that require a thesis and 36-42 contact hours for the duration of the program. Canadian MA programs don't attract attention by American universities for this reason.
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Australian here. My Master's Program (Applied Linguistics) is two years |
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Non Sequitur
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| Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:43 am Post subject: |
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| cloud_pleaser wrote: |
| OhBudPowellWhereArtThou wrote: |
I believe that Australian MA programs and U.K. MA programs are one-year programs. American MA programs are two-year stints that require a thesis and 36-42 contact hours for the duration of the program. Canadian MA programs don't attract attention by American universities for this reason.
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Australian here. My Master's Program (Applied Linguistics) is two years |
In my country (NZ) you can get an 'Honours' addition to a Bachelors with another year of study.
The next step Masters is really like a piece of string because to have to complete a thesis. |
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In the heat of the moment
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Learning Mandarin will 'open doors' to law firms, international trade companies, immigration and logistics companies, etc?
How about NASA?
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wangdaning
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| Why would they not just hire a native Chinese speaker? |
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Non Sequitur
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cloud_pleaser
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| Non Sequitur wrote: |
| cloud_pleaser wrote: |
| OhBudPowellWhereArtThou wrote: |
I believe that Australian MA programs and U.K. MA programs are one-year programs. American MA programs are two-year stints that require a thesis and 36-42 contact hours for the duration of the program. Canadian MA programs don't attract attention by American universities for this reason.
Correct me if I am wrong. |
Australian here. My Master's Program (Applied Linguistics) is two years |
In my country (NZ) you can get an 'Honours' addition to a Bachelors with another year of study.
The next step Masters is really like a piece of string because to have to complete a thesis. |
The honours thing caused my Mum a real headache in the US. She got a job as a lecturer there but had to get her degrees accredited, and in the US it is impossible to go straight from a bachelor's degree to a PhD (Whereas if you do a Bachelor's with Honours in Australia you can). |
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Non Sequitur
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I'm unsure if in NZ you can go from BA(Hons) to a PhD programme.
Unlikely to be different to Aust. |
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rtm
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| cloud_pleaser wrote: |
| [...] in the US it is impossible to go straight from a bachelor's degree to a PhD |
That's not quite accurate. It depends on the field. In some fields, it is quite common in the US to go from bachelor's degree directly to doctorate. |
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou
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| Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 11:38 am Post subject: |
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| rtm wrote: |
| cloud_pleaser wrote: |
| [...] in the US it is impossible to go straight from a bachelor's degree to a PhD |
That's not quite accurate. It depends on the field. In some fields, it is quite common in the US to go from bachelor's degree directly to doctorate. |
Interesting. I've never heard of it, though I am not surprised that such schools exist. Which schools and which programs?
Every Ph.D program I know of requires most applicants to have completed a
thesis.
Nomad Soul,
Are you sure that you aren't talking about a masters certificate? That requires about 12 hours of credit. I think that the masters holders that I know of from Australia probably had the equivalent of a certificate, not a degree, hence my confusion.
My Ma program took me two years to complete plus a semester for completing my thesis. In addition to classes, I was working what was equivalent of a teaching practicum (teaching assistantship). I was a GA for a year and a TA in my second year (or maybe it was the other way around. TA and GA . Never knew the difference) |
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Spyro
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In my opinion, I think 1-2 years will probably been seen in a positive light (and a great experience for you as well!) Anything beyond that, if you are pursuing a traditional career path, will start raising a few eyebrows. You'll probably have to justify why you've been in China for so long/or spin your experience into a strength and without a good answer, it could hurt you.
Nevertheless, it should be easier for you since you are trying to become a teacher to begin with. It's a lot harder to explain the jump from something like ESL to marketing than ESL to primary school teaching.
Furthermore, like others have said, if you are interested in China, better to come now than later. |
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