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Is it ok to have no experience starting in China?
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CNexpatesl



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shanghai is a moot point for OP, because, again, he's not going to have an easy time finding or keeping a job as a new teacher. Stop giving him false info.
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3701 W.119th



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is incredibly easy to get a job in Shanghai as a new teacher with no experience.

Apply online today with EF, WS, and maybe some of the lesser chains like Webb, Shane, etc. (not sure about their respective Shanghai presence), and the OP could have interviews tomorrow.

So... who is it that's giving false information?
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Shanghai Noon



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a gag, I once sent out fake resumes from Robert D. Penguin who graduated from the University of Antarctica. I even included a picture of a guy in a penguin costume teaching some kids.

I got replies. Apparently a penguin can teach English in Shanghai Confused

It doesn't matter where you go in China. A white face only gets you so far. If the OP is willing to learn, and can get on board with an outfit that has decent training and professional development, he will be fine anywhere.
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MDaisley



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holy pooballs, the thread really went places while I was busy over the weekend. Thought it was a non-starter!

jimpellow wrote:
I am curious if the poster wants to go to China, or if he wants to go to China as that has been the traditional land for the ESL newbie?

If the first, I would work on seeing how and where you can get around the rule as a couple posters stated above. I had sort of assumed the second. If the second, I would pull out a globe and realize the world is a big place with a lot more opportunities than the China littered job boards suggest.


I want to go to China. If I wanted easy I'd go somewhere in the boonies of southeast Asia where 'being a white guy' is enough of a qualification to teach English, and never lose so many pounds, in money and physical weight, doing a CELTA explicitly at a place headlined by Jim Scrivener and Cambridge University. I want to go to China and be a good teacher. Not somewhere and just pay me.

Shanghai Noon wrote:
It doesn't matter where you go in China. A white face only gets you so far. If the OP is willing to learn, and can get on board with an outfit that has decent training and professional development, he will be fine anywhere.


That's basically my worry. Professional development with at least a forced smile (they can scratch what they really think of me on the toilet wall, it's fine) is what I want, and it would be nice if I can find a job that's willing to take on and help a n00b, as opposed to me just grinding myself through the gears for a year like I'm supposedly a full-on teacher already, and hoping what comes out the other end still wants to teach and not just nuke the planet out of world weary spite (supervillain lair optional).

True, a lot of what I'm saying is gonna sound a lot like trying too hard to find the absolute perfect job, but I figure you might as well present your ideal and see how close things can get to it. Maybe someone will end up needing some new guy they can pat on the back now and then and pay sod all for a 14 hour a week position teaching young adults from a provided lesson plan, and read all of this. BOOM! We need this guy! ....or not. Whatever. Razz

And guys....guys....you're all getting real worked up about Shanghai. Very Happy You don't need to, it's fine, maybe the kind of people who go back to Cambridge after being in China just don't like Shanghai. *LOL*

But thanks for everyone throwing in all your bits and pieces, just getting the ball rolling with a bit of discussion here really does help me along. I'm unfortunately cursed with being on the 'nervous and cagey' side of the scale when it comes to doing new things, no matter how much I actually want to do them, so taking the initial leap is VERY much the hardest part of the whole process for me. Smile
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