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Tudor
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 Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 5:34 am Post subject: Re: Trojan Horse Alert Trojan Horse Alert Trojan Horse Alert |
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| Hod wrote: |
I'm not sure about any of his/her postings. Countless countries asked about in hordes of questions written in wavering clumsy English. No reasons given for wanting this huge amount of advice, and no feedback or advice ever offered in return. Where is this person even based? Who knows 130+ posts on? Something amiss here. moderators.
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I also think there's something very fishy about this poster; even their username is dubious. On the recently locked thread they lamented "Isn't the point of this forum to assist others with information, rather than chop each other up?"
But I've yet to see them assist anyone else - they just start thread after thread each one containing a request for information. In other words, it's take, take, take, which is why this will be the only contribution I'll be making to any of their threads. |
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spiral78
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| Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 7:39 am Post subject: |
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| The MO of this OP includes stalking regulars via pms. Don't get sucked in! |
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ExpatLuke
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| KSA is a hazard pay country. Not in the big cities like Jeddah, but in some of the southern towns near the Yemeni border. I've seen jobs with hazard pay offered there. |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2016 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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| ExpatLuke wrote: |
| KSA is a hazard pay country. Not in the big cities like Jeddah, but in some of the southern towns near the Yemeni border. I've seen jobs with hazard pay offered there. |
Sure, and most likely at government-subcontracted, military-type EFL training situations located in provinces like Jazan, Najran, and Al Baha, as opposed to teaching posts in universities. But I wouldn't label the entire country as a hazard pay country because the major cities aren't impacted by civil unrest or insurgency.
Be aware salaries have been declining in KSA. |
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ebooktrial0001
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Thanks. I was just more curious at the more extreme sites for working.
I was just curious what the risks/rewards are. |
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scot47
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| You want a hazardous job, try teaching public school in the South Side of Chicago, or in a comprehensive school in the English North. |
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ebooktrial0001
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| Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:34 am Post subject: |
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| Pardon me, international job that's interesting. |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 5:45 am Post subject: |
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| I was just curious what the risks/rewards are. |
The risks are to one's safety and sanity; the reward is in impacting the lives of others by providing educational opportunities. That becomes the focus, not the money. For me, it was never about the salary. |
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ebooktrial0001
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I agree that teachers should go into teaching for the social impact, rather than the money.
However, the hard part is that we all need to save money for retirement, medical care, families, etc.
While many of us teach on the side, for free; we cannot afford to do that full-time, so to speak. |
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nomad soul
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| Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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I agree that teachers should go into teaching for the social impact, rather than the money.
However, the hard part is that we all need to save money for retirement, medical care, families, etc.
While many of us teach on the side, for free; we cannot afford to do that full-time, so to speak. |
Those who need to save for retirement, families, etc., should find another way to earn money.
For starters, you may not meet the specific profile for these types of positions. I was told that I'd scored major points for having experienced the Arab Spring (civil unrest) in 2011, for my diverse "third-culture kid" background, and ironically, my extensive knowledge of the particular country's educational system. (It just happened to have been the subject for my comparative educational systems course while completing my MAT.) It also helped that I speak basic Arabic. Then there's the experience required for the position; I wore many different hats --- having just teaching experience wouldn't have cut it. Anyway, it was a combination of certain factors that got me and my colleagues hired.
Additionally, working in a danger zone isn't stable work. Your contract can be cut short if/when the country's socio-political situation unexpectedly escalates. In my situation, the embassy emphasized that we be ready on a moment's notice for them to evacuate us. We each were required to have one "to-go" tote bag physically with us, which included the only items we could take. There were times when it seemed like "this is it," but fortunately, we were able to complete our contracts. The point is, if you suddenly have to get the heck out because the situation goes badly, you'll find yourself without work and having to job hunt all over again. Not a good plan for those expecting to save money. That's the reality of some of these situations. |
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jaffa
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| You want a hazardous job, try teaching public school in the South Side of Chicago, or in a comprehensive school in the English North. |
LOL. A friend of mine teaches IT in a west London comprehensive and says it's like the UN - every country represented. He added that the white English and the black English were easily the worst behaved, while the English-Indians were far and away the best in terms of effort put in and intelligence, and the Arabs were just hopeless, bone idle and overweight. One day 3 Nepalese turned up and the teaching staff swooned at how cute and naturally pleasant they were. |
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santi84
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Why would anyone go into a hazard zone while being worried about family, medical care, or retirement?
I was in Egypt in 2008. It wasn't quite as bad as the Arab Spring, but things were pretty darn dodgy and it was hardly the place to be for such security. I have a family now (I didn't back then), so the concept of hazard pay is completely irrelevant. Either you are interested in going into those jobs or you have those concerns. You don't really have both, do you? Maybe some do, but I'm a mama bear now. |
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Hod
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| Posted: Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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| scot47 wrote: |
| You want a hazardous job, try teaching public school in the South Side of Chicago, or in a comprehensive school in the English North. |
| ebooktrial0001 wrote: |
| Pardon me, international job that's interesting. |
Yes. Pardon me stoc47. International job that’s interesting. Am I as so clearly a native speaking please to help. I’m know sarcasm or? |
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Hod
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| Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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| stoc47, you must to help ebooktrial007 with England North who need native speaking; |
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