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Are 12-month salaries rare?
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Greg 09



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 5:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the above posts are generally on the money (pun intended), but contracts which pay 12 months can be had. However, it may be in a place you don't want to be.

I've spent the past 6 years in a 3rd tier city (pop. <1million) with 12 months pay and 7K per semester air allowance paid in cash, not reimbursement. Plus other bonuses and allowances on top of that.

Not many teachers want to come this far out of the way but it suits me just fine. Very low cost of living allows lots of savings for travel and trips home during those long paid holidays. Smile

Its a very relaxed lifestyle among very friendly people.
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The key to 12m salaries is to re-sign. If you're doing a decent job paying you for July and August is probably as cheap as the hassle and unknowns of filling your position from offshore.
Follow your bliss Very Happy
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getbehindthemule



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Non Sequitur wrote:
The key to 12m salaries is to re-sign. If you're doing a decent job paying you for July and August is probably as cheap as the hassle and unknowns of filling your position from offshore.
Follow your bliss Very Happy


Yep, I feel at lot of places now look at it this way!
They may also tend to put it in the 'bonus' box, as in your reward for re-signing. But, if your school can give you a small pay increase in addition to full pay during the holidays, that's fair enough imo.

I have recently re-signed for a third year and got another small pay rise and slight increase in housing allowance. I wonder is it standard practice for schools to give a pay rise on second, third contracts, etc?
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've not noticed this and have been happy with getting paid for July and August, so haven't pressed the issue.
Re airfares: Maybe a poll might clarify this issue?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a decent Uni job before the current job. 12 business classes a week, close to where I lived. For 12 classes the salary was nice. Only thing was it was a 10 month contract. No pay for the summer. And they lied about health insurance.

Left them for an "international" language school. Much better pay, The incentive was 12 month pay and about 3 1/2 months of paid holidays - including closed for 2 weeks at Christmas.

Paid health insurance too. Hours are a bit more 25 classes a week at 35 minutes a class - but I live. I finish each day at 2:30pm or earlier and no office hours.

Prefer the uni job but like these benefits.
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kungfuman wrote:
I had a decent Uni job before the current job. 12 business classes a week, close to where I lived. For 12 classes the salary was nice. Only thing was it was a 10 month contract. No pay for the summer. And they lied about health insurance.

Left them for an "international" language school. Much better pay, The incentive was 12 month pay and about 3 1/2 months of paid holidays - including closed for 2 weeks at Christmas.

Paid health insurance too. Hours are a bit more 25 classes a week at 35 minutes a class - but I live. I finish each day at 2:30pm or earlier and no office hours.

Prefer the uni job but like these benefits.


Yeah - gotta love it.
You've put international in quotes.
Do you mean it's a marketing ploy rather than a bona fide international with expat students etc?
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LarssonCrew



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A 'proper' Int school is one where foreign parents are happy sending their kids. You know, people over here working as businessmen, people working in the banks etc.

I thought the rate was 75% non local to 25% local to be 'proper international.'

Most international schools don't have the same aims and goals. Most push the kids towards taking the IELTS rather than A level/SAT route to the west, and then those that have the chance to give the A levels or send kids to HK for the SAT normally end up with the student's failing and having to just do the IELTS/TOEFL route anyway.

Most International schools in China end up having the teachers teach 'business English' rather than 'business studies' because the majority of the student body do not have adequate English skills.
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adventious



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LarssonCrew wrote:
A 'proper' Int school is one where foreign parents are happy sending their kids. You know, people over here working as businessmen, people working in the banks etc.

I thought the rate was 75% non local to 25% local to be 'proper international.'

Most international schools don't have the same aims and goals. Most push the kids towards taking the IELTS rather than A level/SAT route to the west, and then those that have the chance to give the A levels or send kids to HK for the SAT normally end up with the student's failing and having to just do the IELTS/TOEFL route anyway.

Most International schools in China end up having the teachers teach 'business English' rather than 'business studies' because the majority of the student body do not have adequate English skills.
You've not made a single declarative statement that's accurate.
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Non Sequitur



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My idea of a true international is one where expat kids study under International Baccalaureate conditions (or similar) and wouldn't be behind their peers when they returned home or parents were posted elsewhere.
Local kids doing the same course would be well set up for tertiary study in the West later.
That is of course secondary (high school) study. Grade or primary students I'm not sure about.
The only teacher I know who taught at an international said her grade class students did normal Western studies in English in the morning and China system classes in Chinese after lunch. Not sure if that applied to expat primary students or not.
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