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Non Sequitur · Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China

Layovers are common at hubs ie Dubai for Emirates, HK for Cathay and Dragon.
There will be a minimum number of hours - 2 to 3 in my exp which is simply the technical requirements of bag transfer and getting passengers from one gate to another.
Where there are longer layovers it generally means someone is really looking for the El Cheapo option.
But hey! didn't we get into ESL for the cultural experience?
Since when did a 9 hour wait in Ulan Batoor not be an interesting possibility?
This 'frafffully tedious' stuff from some posters is hard to swallow.

JohnE3294 · Joined: 10 Sep 2015 Posts: 11

Can anyone else on the ground verify these lower salaries are becoming more widespread. I appreciate the activity on my question, but this airport talk is a bit off topic and not really helpful to my original question.

Non Sequitur · Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China

Fringe items like airfares and paid accommodation are worth upward of 3 months salary.
OP would be in serious error if concentrating on per month cash remuneration to the exclusion of the two main fringe items as above.
But back to remuneration: Since 2004 when I first got involved in the business, salaries have definitely increased.
BUT in the short term ie 2-4 years they have gone backward or plateaued.
As others have mentioned accom and travel allowances have been chiseled.
I started off on full air refund which was over 10K. I'll look at my first school and see what they're offering now and report that. The salary was 5500pm in 2004.

LarssonCrew · Joined: 06 Jun 2009 Posts: 1308

I remember working at a uni and a girl from North Carolina requiring a flight that was 14500 RMB return. No problems, got the cash in hand.

I remember that same uni paying for ALL bills on my apartment, internet, heating, electricity, gas, water etc.

Now I see some offering 5000 RMB airfare.

I also think wages have kinda stagnated [although high skilled PT jobs i.e. IELTS tutoring, A level tutoring etc.] may have gone up. Along with wages being same same it seems more and more jobs want your white face in the office.

Non Sequitur · Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China

LarssonCrew · Joined: 06 Jun 2009 Posts: 1308

Possibly 4 1/2 years ago.

I was told since I was UK my limit was 10000. So I found a direct flight for 9980 with BA. Felt good getting that PG tips on the way back.

The odd thing is that, as nice as the guy who lead the foreign teachers was, I.e. I only saw him to pick up my salary and schedule, he and his co workers would absolutely rinse the system.

They'd go to Malaysia to recruit foreign teachers and come back with huge backs from the Crowne Plaza in KL and with bags and bags of shopping.

I got pissed they had a trip for the students to London and I maybe half of those going were my students [as English majors]. They wanted me to go so I said why not. Turns out the trip didn't have 'space' for a foreigner. Turns out 14 'admin' staff went to accompany 29 students. All on the universities dime. Half of them were uncles or wives of those working in the accounting department. Go figure.

Non Sequitur · Joined: 23 May 2010 Posts: 4724 Location: China

Workers Paradise mate.
You would think having a live Brit along would have opened up all sorts of possibilities for the students. Making connections between what they saw in London and how it differed (or resembled) their expectations.
Maybe visit a private home?
Do any of these schools actually value education?

JB140767 · Joined: 09 Aug 2015 Posts: 135

JB140767 · Joined: 09 Aug 2015 Posts: 135

creeper1 · Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2016 2:09 am Post subject:

I don't know if salaries are going down or not but this ad is rather upfront about the racism

http://www.thebeijinger.com/classifieds/employment/2016/06/13/12000-13000-rmb-free-chinese-training-paid-chinese-public-0

jimpellow · Joined: 12 Oct 2007 Posts: 913