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nomad soul
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| lizzydizzy wrote: |
There may be some misunderstandings here. In the telephone industry, no foreign nationals are able to hold these positions. There is no requirement that the Saudis must be qualified or not (which could include training new workers, etc.). This is relevant because logic does not necessarily dictate that possible Saudization of the TEFL industry would require replacement of NS and NNS teachers with qualified Saudis. In fact, there may be a shortage of qualified teachers if NS and NNS (that are foreign nationals) are to be completely replaced.
Nomad Soul brings up an interesting point. If most instruction is in Arabic, as claimed, what does that imply about the overall level of English education in Saudi Arabia? Teaching primarily in Arabic implies lower level English courses, but NS teachers teach conversation courses in English, which implies otherwise. This suggests that providing a supply of qualified (at least conversational) English teachers is important for English education in Saudi Arabia. |
I'm not sure what you mean by "English education," but the prep year programs are separate from the universities' academic/degree programs and will always require expats with near native to native English proficiency to teach alongside qualified Saudis. Additionally, conversation English is more likely to be taught in private language schools (like Berlitz) but not in university PYPs, which tend to focus on the four language skills. |
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revilo
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Location: Mos Eisley
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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| I teach in Qassim and the latest Saudi instructor left teaching ESL to go into administration. You can have Saudization, but it doesn't mean you'll have a work force. |
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veiledsentiments
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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Teaching English (or teaching at all) will never be all or even mostly Saudi. The key factors are the sexual segregation... and the fact that teaching is not a respected occupation. Any male with a high level of English will have many better options. Thus the girls schools will get many, even mostly local teachers... eventually. But the boys schools will not... ever. That issue will extend through university English courses.
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