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siologen · Joined: 25 Oct 2016 Posts: 336

I have a 120 hour tefl. I want to do the celta to further opportunities in Europe.

Thanks for your reply also VS.

Leno · Joined: 20 Dec 2015 Posts: 51

I wish the OP the financial success and fun time in the kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

If possible, do not mention that you were teaching in Oman, or your (bad) experiences there.

KSA loves positive people, not people with negative mind or words.

siologen · Joined: 25 Oct 2016 Posts: 336

plumpy nut · Joined: 12 Mar 2011 Posts: 1652

Leno · Joined: 20 Dec 2015 Posts: 51

Have anyone ever heard of the word "hypocrite" which is causing problems everywhere???

why not let TomHanks explain things for you all, so that new comers as well as old timers will be able to enjoy their time there

Must-seehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_8ZVPmbLlg

siologen · Joined: 25 Oct 2016 Posts: 336

I am totally lost as to what the tom hanks youtube reference is for? Word to the wise, dear boy, showing a movies/youtube clips to your students in the K.S.A will have you slung out on your ear faster than you can say "thank you" in arabic!

plumpy nut · Joined: 12 Mar 2011 Posts: 1652

wooh wooh wo wo wo wo wo wo wo woooh wo wo wo wo wo wooh Don't worry, be happy da da da da. Everybody sing and dance along.

When you come to the KSA you're sole purpose is to steer through the Saudi malevolence and idiotic machinations and continue to make the salary that you want to continue to make. Hypocrisy is not a very pointed or direct explanation for what a native English teacher is going to experience in Saudi Arabia. A teacher sometimes really never really knows for sure why he is being removed. Maybe Mohammed Al Khantani is concerned for the way you handled the Koran, or some Saudi "playboy" is unhappy because he wants to talk about going to the USA and your not entertaining him. Maybe the student you hear babbling through the book in order to answer your questions, just realized that he doesn't look like he's all there and complained. You never really know for sure really what went wrong.

siologen · Joined: 25 Oct 2016 Posts: 336

You seem to know your stuff re: the gulf.

Despite rules clearly stating that no mobile phones are to be used in exams, and taking two phones of a student who broke those rules during an exam, I was the one that was in the wrong. When I raised the no mobile "rule" with the HOD, he didn't really answer, but I could tell he was not really happy with me either. The general consensus is the student is always right and can do what they want, and woe betide any FT who dares to follow the "rules" and actually report a student for bad behaviour in class, cheating in exams, or using mobile phones which are not allowed in THEIR own rules! Rolling Eyes

Chopin16 · Joined: 30 Nov 2016 Posts: 69

The OP says he has an 120 hr TEFL and wishes to do a Celta to further enhance his opportunities in Europe. I mean what??? First of all a 120 Hr TEFL is the same as a CELTA anyway esp if it is a Cambridge English one. The CELTA is 120 Hours isn't it? Secondly, a 120Hr TEFL is quite enough to get most EFL jobs in Europe so the OP does not need to upgrade to a CELTA (even though it's no upgrade at all)

siologen · Joined: 25 Oct 2016 Posts: 336

In Spain, many people have CELTA or are qualified to teach in the UK with a PGCE or QTS. I am resolutely NOT. So, ME having ONLY a B.A. DEGREE and a TEFL cert just does not cut it in Spain for finding decent teaching work, and I do not fancy the ten a penny jobs teaching little kids at some training centre. Hope that CLARIFIES things for you Twisted Evil

Edited on Sat 3rd December at 8:32 in the morning, CET.

Chopin16 · Joined: 30 Nov 2016 Posts: 69

You just made things more confusing. Qualified to teach in the UK means getting a pgce which is a year of study at a UK college in your subject. That qualifies you to teach at schools in the UK. A CELTA wouldn't qualify you to do this. You can teach in a Spain with a 120 hr TEFL. You dont need the fancy named Celta to teach in Spain or any EU city. I worked with people with no degree and no TEFL/Celta for a big company in an EU city who were teaching english. Most employers prefer a degree and tefl/celta but not all. And i don't know what nationality the OP is but if he isn't an EU citizen and mainly a UK one, he'll find it difficult getting a job offer anywhere in the EU since brits don't need visas (yet). The op still doesn't need to upgrade his tefl to a celta. They're the same thing.

siologen · Joined: 25 Oct 2016 Posts: 336

Chopin16 · Joined: 30 Nov 2016 Posts: 69

Sorry I can't understand your long sentences. You said you want to do TEFL in Spain or the EU not HK. I have never heard of anyone requiring a transcript for a TEFL cert. You have a 120 TEFL. This is sufficient for any EFL job anywhere in the WORLD. You don't need a blooming CELTA I am telling you. It would be a useless upgrade and no upgrade at all since a 120 TEFL is the same as having a CELTA. I have a Cert TEFLA from Cambridge English for example and it's fine for any job anywhere. In fact I think the cert TEFLA IS the CELTA now. Mine was a month's course and not really worth the paper it's written on. DOn't waste £1000 on a CELTA. Do a DELTA if anything, not that that's much better.

siologen · Joined: 25 Oct 2016 Posts: 336