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MuscatGary
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| I would just leave with no notice immediately after the next pay day. Mind you I always keep a heaLthy FUF. |
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rioux
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| I would just leave with no notice immediately after the next pay day. |
I second that.
If they aren't going to abide faithfully by the contract nor should you. |
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TeacherInChina
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou
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| Do your best to find out who has his finger on the button at the school. Take names of people that you have spoken to or who have tried to speak to, then go to the City FAO's office which is usually housed in the PSB building where you got your residence permit. If you can find someone who speaks English, ask for the name of the FAO. |
She has been clear in that i should speak to her only in regards to contract/official matters. There is no central office or teacher room that i know of. The president seems to be the only other option.
I when with my teacher/liason to the PSB office when applying for the RP. There was an official that was surveying the other seated officials and was giving all of my (and others) documents the once over. There was an issue with my photo and i was seated in front of him, but he just made gestures instead of speaking English. It was just an issue about the background color, but he had to translate through my liaison. So, I am not too sure how happy or comfortable he would be if i just rocked up to the desk with these issues in English, much less if i just loiter around the halls waiting to pounce on every top dog looking official with English. I would likely be beaten down by those security guards with the billy clubs 
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| When you find the office, just go in and say "Howdy. Nice dress you're wearing [they're usually women]. Had any good tufu lately? By the way, I'm having problems at my school, but no one seems to want to help." |
If only it would be like that
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| If you find yourself talking to a jerk, that isn't the City FAO. One of the city FAO's jobs is to ride herd over school FAOs so that the city doesn't get a bad name. If the jerk won't help, ask him directly, "Are you THE FAO or the assistant FAO?" Get his name too. If he is an assistant, walk down the hall and wait for someone else to enter the office. That'll probably be the head honcho. |
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| If you still can't get satisfaction, and don't mind stirring up a hornets nest, Just tell the jerks that your next stop is the PSB, then the mayor's office. Leave your phone number with the City FAO and go back to your apartment and wait for a call from someone. Chances are that you'll be on the bus headed back home when you get a call from either the real school FAO or the City FAO. |
The mayor ! Ha, i would probably be tasered at the gate
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TeacherInChina
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Despite what Bud says in an earlier post I feel SAFEA or the threat of an approach by you, is your only option.
If you want to get this resolved by end of Semester (June) start now.
Tell your classes that you will be unable to give a 'final' test or mark. Make it vague but the class snitich will get the message back.
Make sure the SAFEA comment and the no finals comment hit the same desk at the same time.
Best |
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TeacherInChina
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| Please let us know the name of the school perhaps after you immediately leave. |
Certainly. The university is probably hiring now... it might be too late for the next person. |
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TeacherInChina
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| Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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| I would just leave with no notice immediately after the next pay day. Mind you I always keep a heaLthy FUF. |
I have thought about this. However, I am worried about the ramifications of doing this with my next teaching position, which i am currently looking for.
And...what exactly is a FUF? My guess is something vulgar |
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TeacherInChina
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| Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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| rioux wrote: |
| MuscatGary wrote: |
| I would just leave with no notice immediately after the next pay day. |
I second that.
If they aren't going to abide faithfully by the contract nor should you. |
If my meeting with the president and (polite) threats to visit the PSB goes nowhere, then this might be a serious option. This means I would certainly lose the travel allowance and flight ticket home, but it is even doubtful that I will even get that if i stay at this point...
Could I be stopped at the airport by immigration? Yes, I am overly paranoid about these things...my guess is hell no, but... |
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OhBudPowellWhereArtThou
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"...she has no clue what SAFEA is...."
I had an FAO like that. The contract was a xeroxed affair that had SAFEA emblazoned across it, yet she had no idea what SAFEA was.
Something is seriously wrong. Your best bet may be to keep your head low, ride out the rest of your contract, then hope that your captors issue a release and (maybe) a referral so you can move on. |
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The bear
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"...she has no clue what SAFEA is...."
I had an FAO like that. The contract was a xeroxed affair that had SAFEA emblazoned across it, yet she had no idea what SAFEA was.
Something is seriously wrong. Your best bet may be to keep your head low, ride out the rest of your contract, then hope that your captors issue a release and (maybe) a referral so you can move on. |
But at the risk OP would never see any of salary/reimbursement again. Essentially paying to work.
There's a chance OP will get the full salary and reimbursement owed to him, but judging by the employers previous and current behaviour I wouldn't count on it.
At what stage is it best to cut your losses and leave?
To OP: If your next salary is not in full I would leave. I do not say this lightly, it seems that you've spent around 4-5 months chasing what is owed to you. If you haven't got it by now, not sure you will. |
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MuscatGary
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| fuf = f**k u fund. Everybody should have at least 6 months salary in the bank at all times so they have a cushion for when things go wrong. |
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getbehindthemule
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| fuf = f**k u fund. Everybody should have at least 6 months salary in the bank at all times so they have a cushion for when things go wrong. |
Totally agree Muscat! I think one of the reasons that FTs are treated so poorly (when it comes to money) at times is due to this. I would say that many FTs are almost living paycheck to paycheck and the schools know this. Especially as many FTs borrow some 'start up money' from the school at the beginning of their contracts.
A FUF is vital |
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Non Sequitur
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| Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 5:23 am Post subject: |
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| TeacherInChina wrote: |
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Despite what Bud says in an earlier post I feel SAFEA or the threat of an approach by you, is your only option.
If you want to get this resolved by end of Semester (June) start now.
Tell your classes that you will be unable to give a 'final' test or mark. Make it vague but the class snitich will get the message back.
Make sure the SAFEA comment and the no finals comment hit the same desk at the same time.
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I can not impress upon you how obtuse my liaison is. I said to BudPowell that i would bet a beer ,or my good name that she has no clue what SAFEA is. And any explanation on my part would be met by that glazed look in her eyes. I have given up speaking with her. If she had a clue, i think this would be a good idea.
I have been trying to speak with her since Dec. 2016 before my last contract ended in Jan 2017.
The class leader, or snitch! Honestly, the students couldn't care less. They would be happy with no test (the department will pass them anyway). This could easily be turned against me - the 'bad teacher' is not doing his duties , so why should we pay you?
I have though about going to class and let it slip that the university is not paying me, but i still don't think they would care, or even understand... |
Well, as someone said (in another context) 'What have you got to lose?'
Anything is better than what you have now, which is facing the end of the year and leaving without what's rightfully yours. |
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TeacherInChina
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| fuf = f**k u fund. Everybody should have at least 6 months salary in the bank at all times so they have a cushion for when things go wrong. |
Totally agree Muscat! I think one of the reasons that FTs are treated so poorly (when it comes to money) at times is due to this. I would say that many FTs are almost living paycheck to paycheck and the schools know this. Especially as many FTs borrow some 'start up money' from the school at the beginning of their contracts.
A FUF is vital |
This is exactly what i thought you meant
I have such a fund, but I always am determined to honor my end of a contract, or at least solve any issues with the least amount of carnage whenever possible.
Plus, as noted, they had not reimbursed my flight to China yet and "could not reimburse my flight home" because the "accounts office was closed". This added more pressure to sign the contract. They knew this. If i did not sign, then goodbye to a very expensive set of tickets and 9 months of not working.
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TeacherInChina
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double post
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TeacherInChina
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Tell your classes that you will be unable to give a 'final' test or mark. Make it vague but the class snitich will get the message back.
Make sure the SAFEA comment and the no finals comment hit the same desk at the same time.
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Well, as someone said (in another context) 'What have you got to lose?'
Anything is better than what you have now, which is facing the end of the year and leaving without what's rightfully yours. |
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