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Reason for going/Staying in KSA
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scot47



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FFS !
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Hatcher



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would add two things.

I stopped asking people in the KSA why they were there because everyone acted like it was a stupid question, and said, "MONEY!"

I make more money in China than I did in the KSA ut have to work harder.

On an hourly rate, KSA is tops.
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siologen



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 6:38 am    Post subject: re: therein lies the rub.... Reply with quote

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I make more money in China than I did in the KSA ut have to work harder.


And factor in the pollution and the visas in that country that are harder to get, and the KSA is not too bad in comparison. Again, each to their own I feel on this one!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Over the years I met many in KSA who were there as converts. For them, money was not everything. The other 3 "M's came into it - Mohammed, Necca and Medina !
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elamericano



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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not a convert but I quite enjoy studying Arabic, particularly writing.

Some universities here have Arabic language programs for foreigners. Which... of course... are managed by Saudis and actually taught by Levantines or Egyptians.

I looked at some of the requirements to enroll and for the full certificate program with a scholarship you usually have to be under 25, at least that's what the websites say. OTOH I did see a program in Jeddah that was shorter and for older adult learners.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The teaching of Arabic as a Foreign Language is not well developed in KSA. The assumption is always that the motives for study are theological or religious. The ideae that a non-Muslim might want to learn Arabic is viewed with some alarm.

In Jeddah I found my own teacher of Arabic - a Filipino Muslim who was a sworn interpreter (Arabic-Tagalog) for the Ministry of Justice.
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revilo



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I make more money in China than I did in the KSA ut have to work harder.


I spent some time in Daqing/Harbin and the money was low and transferring was hard. I had to fill out a form, buy American dollars, transfer those dollars to a bank and there was a $500 limit per day.

That got old real fast. Mad
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scot47



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No exchange control in KSA plus a banking system that actually works. Two very positive features of working there.
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bigdurian



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scot47 wrote:
No exchange control in KSA plus a banking system that actually works. Two very positive features of working there.


Yes, the banking system works, but physical visits to the bank can be lengthy.

OTOH, fortunately you can do most things on your phone these days through banking apps.

I can send 30,000 SAR a day from the comfort of my sofa in second, which should be enough for most people in Saudi.
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siologen



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 10:53 am    Post subject: re: banking from the ksa? Reply with quote

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I can send 30,000 SAR a day from the comfort of my sofa in second, which should be enough for most people in Saudi.


Interesting indeed. A quick question, I no longer have bank/building society account in the UK, nor a credit card. If I was being paid in cash in the KSA, what would you recommend as best options to do with it? Is it possible to convert to GBP/EUR, with just a passport?
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scot47



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can get foreign currency but are you going to keep cash under your bed ? When leaving you have to declare currency including foreign currency to Customs.

For those who have never seen it I recommend a visit to Alamoudi Bureau de Change ("Saraf") in Khobar. Amazing.
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siologen



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:52 am    Post subject: re: thanks for all replies Reply with quote

I had a similar problem in Oman, but changed an amount each month at uaexchange into EUR, and in the last month into Emirates dirhams as I had a stopover there before going home. There is a limit of 10,000 euros into the EU, but I was not carrying anywhere near that amount. I found one way is to have a travelex card and load money onto that as a safe way if one does not have a bank account. All replies appreciated!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigdurian wrote:
scot47 wrote:
No exchange control in KSA plus a banking system that actually works. Two very positive features of working there.


Yes, the banking system works, but physical visits to the bank can be lengthy.

OTOH, fortunately you can do most things on your phone these days through banking apps.

I can send 30,000 SAR a day from the comfort of my sofa in second, which should be enough for most people in Saudi.


60,000 a day, not 30,000. I have so much money I can't even remember what I'm sending.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:57 pm    Post subject: Re: re: banking from the ksa? Reply with quote

siologen wrote:
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I can send 30,000 SAR a day from the comfort of my sofa in second, which should be enough for most people in Saudi.


Interesting indeed. A quick question, I no longer have bank/building society account in the UK, nor a credit card. If I was being paid in cash in the KSA, what would you recommend as best options to do with it? Is it possible to convert to GBP/EUR, with just a passport?


The only time I've tried to change money at the bank without an Iqama, at one bank, it was refused.

As for sending money, I seem to remember a thread on here a while back about that very same thing. The guy was on a business visa with no way of getting his cash out. I think the guy in question ended up sending money via western union at Bahrain airport. So I suppose he combined visa renewals with a money send. Or went for a vacation every so often.

The other thing to do would be go to an Enjaz in Saudi with an Iqama holder, and send the money to yourself(seeing how you have no bank account) via western union, before you go to whatever country.

Or just give any cash to me, and I promise I will look after it and send it. Honest guv......
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BajaLaJaula



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking of transferring money and exchange rates....

Maybe this is common knowledge but I certainly didn't realize it at the time...

The exchange rate SAR to USD in KSA is not the same rate that you can get outside of the country.

On one occasion, after selling my car and leaving the kingdom, I did not have time to stop at the bank to change SAR to USD. I thought it would not be a problem to do it once I had left since, "The Saudi Riyal is pegged to the dollar."

To my shock and horror, I found out that US banks don't follow the same exchange rates. I ended up having to exchange at 3.17 SAR to 1 USD. I lost a considerable amount of money due to my lack of knowledge. "Dumb-dumb wants Gum gum."
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