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Check or Money Order from China? For Criminal Record Check
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nimadecaomei



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steps I went through for the process:
1) Got fingerprinted at the Chengdu place
2) Sent the sealed prints and letter for the reason to my Mom
3) My Mom mailed the prints, letter, and a check (Mom's personal check) to the California DOJ
4) They send back a record that is not stamped or signed, I email them and they send one back that is stamped and signed by the Attorney General
5) Mom sends it to China and I send it to a company here that will get it authenticated.

Total cost was about 3000 yuan and it took about 2.5-3 weeks.

Companies have really screwed themselves this year. The new regs were announced quite a while ago. The company I worked for before (for 9 years) seemed to not know what was going to happen. The place I am moving to answered very swiftly with specific instructions and guidance of what I needed to do. They even connected me with the company that will get all the docs authenticated. Everything has been done while in China.
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huoguojiggae2017



Joined: 13 Jul 2017
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nimadecaomei wrote:
Steps I went through for the process:
1) Got fingerprinted at the Chengdu place
2) Sent the sealed prints and letter for the reason to my Mom
3) My Mom mailed the prints, letter, and a check (Mom's personal check) to the California DOJ
4) They send back a record that is not stamped or signed, I email them and they send one back that is stamped and signed by the Attorney General
5) Mom sends it to China and I send it to a company here that will get it authenticated.

Total cost was about 3000 yuan and it took about 2.5-3 weeks.

Companies have really screwed themselves this year. The new regs were announced quite a while ago. The company I worked for before (for 9 years) seemed to not know what was going to happen. The place I am moving to answered very swiftly with specific instructions and guidance of what I needed to do. They even connected me with the company that will get all the docs authenticated. Everything has been done while in China.


You seem to have been hired with a recruiting service that is doing this. The 3000RMB charge may seem unnecessary, but it is actually the courier charge if you go a different route. I did what you did with my diploma authentication. Step 4 seems like it was a fix, a request for something that you wanted to begin with. It doesn't seem like Step 4 was a requirement. You may have forgotten to ask for a notarized background check?

At step 5, I think you can also have a family member send it to a courier service which will take it to the Chinese consulate. The cost is about $200, 1332 rmb, and they can ship it to China.

So the recruiting agency is getting an extra $200 from you. This might be nothing, because they have an incentive to make sure it is done right. If you try to do it on your own and you screw up you might be out more than $200.

Gamble on your own accord Laughing
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Sinobear



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ICBC main branches can cut certified checks (cheques). Convert RMB to USD and then buy the certified check. American Express Travelers Checks are also available.
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nimadecaomei



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not paying for it. You are right step 4 was annoying as I stated it was for visa purposes and China. They turned it around in about 3 days though.
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TrampledKlown



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems silly to change jobs these days.
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Curtinca



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A little off-topic but speaking to the point raised about the advisability of maintaining a "base" in one's home country...

In Canada, if you have such a base, your worldwide income is subject to federal and provincial income tax, the latter based the province in which you say you are (sometimes) resident.

It is only if you cut all ties with Canada -- sell your home, close your bank account, stop cheering for the Canadiens -- that you become a true "ex-pat" (permanent non-resident) and thus not subject to Canadian income tax laws.
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nomad soul



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Curtinca wrote:
A little off-topic but speaking to the point raised about the advisability of maintaining a "base" in one's home country...

In Canada, if you have such a base, your worldwide income is subject to federal and provincial income tax, the latter based the province in which you say you are (sometimes) resident.

That would make for a lively discussion on pros and cons in the off-topic forum. Maybe you should start a new thread. Cool

In the context of this thread, my point was that these visa requirements are what they are (and not just in China). Everything is tied to the job seeker's passport/nationality and assumed residency in their home country. At the same time, they have to contend with specific requirements per their passport country (i.e., US state, province, etc.). Things like a driver's license, bank account, and address are proof of residency, which in turn, makes it less of a financial headache when completing the visa requirements for the host country. In other words, the applicant meets the needs of both the host country and their home country. That's the reality in this age of combatting identify theft and maintaining homeland security. Plus, visa and immigration regs can and do change.

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huoguojiggae2017



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went to the Beijing location listed in this thread for fingerprinting. The actual place you go to is different than what it says. You don't go to any second floors. You go through the main entrance and take a left, don't go in the big building in front. Then, at that corner should be a sign on the building. The building attached on the left is pink and salmon colored. Considering it is the ONLY Beijing one listed, I am surprised there aren't better directions. The security guard pointed me in the direction way off in the distance where the building to make a payment is. I just followed a Chinese group.

If you go past the pink/salmon colored building you went too far, and like me, you might be told by some Chinese pranksters (I seriously think they were pranking me) to go in the autopsy building. Well, guess what gang, I did and the doors locked as I entered. Shocked But, now I know what temperature dead bodies are kept at Laughing
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nimadecaomei



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least you seem to have found it. The Chengdu one was simple, straight in for the fingerprinting. Only issue was the guy telling me strictly to relax. He knew his stuff though so I trusted him.
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