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papuadn
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:37 am Post subject: |
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"We really have everything in common with America nowadays except, of course, language".
-- Oscar Wilde, The Canterville Ghost, 1887
Nevertheless, claiming BISS is a "true" international school to the OP based on a job description and its approximation of what defines an ideal candidate is inaccurate. |
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Non Sequitur
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:17 am Post subject: |
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| In what way? |
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papuadn
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:03 am Post subject: |
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(1) Accreditation determines the acceptance or rejection of what progress and marks a pupil receives when returning to the country of origin or seeking non-resident admission elsewhere.
(2) A teacher with legitimate qualifications is not served by accepting a position with a school misrepresenting accreditation-- it doesn't further a career.
Moreover, the job description is not particularly versed in what qualifications are relevant to an accredited international program. Maybe you saw DELTA and concluded higher threshold?
The history of international programs is a little complicated (accredited and not-- and I do not refer to the recent growth of those here in China), but given the earlier and dismissive reply of barf... |
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Non Sequitur
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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This is what I saw:
'Must have a minimum of 5 years’ post-degree teaching experience (English teaching/training experience in China/Asia
preferred)
For those who are following this thread there is another point in the Person Specification.
Native or bilingual proficiency in English
This appears to open the way for Sth Africans who have bilingual education (English/Africaans).
They tend to be discriminated against in the FT market. |
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papuadn
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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You have significant experience and you are a regular poster, so your confusion about this demonstrates to me why others are.
Five plus years is more than an average (higher threshold), but "teaching experience" is without qualification and schools that transfer records are never as vague about a teacher's experience.
The school claims multiple affiliations it does not have. Maybe you are including as "true" a curricula of international topics? Because that is a type of international/alternative enterprise (private) as well as accredited schools that transfer records (also private). |
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Non Sequitur
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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Your insistence on exactitude, currency and clarity when dealing with any Chinese enterprise, is misplaced.
If that's not too binary a concept for you. |
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papuadn
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Posted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Addressing me versus the OP's concern is deflection. You looked at a website and made a bad call. Ignoring that a school claims affiliation with organizations that don't list it is suspicious. It's likely a scam and your insistence that it's a "true" international is specious. |
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Non Sequitur
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Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:44 am Post subject: |
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It's a true international as far as the spec for teaching staff is concerned. I made no claim as to other issues around the school.
Chinese websites are notorious for being out-of-date. They may be making spurious claims re accreditation, or they may not.
At a certain point it comes down to the Q&A between an applicant and the employer. To take the view that every issue is to be based on the webpages is absurd. What about accommodation? What about access to cafeterias? What about on-campus health nurse or Dr? |
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SH_Panda

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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:48 am Post subject: |
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| papuadn wrote: |
The job description link worked for me.
Fishy: The page's copyright is 2015, which is not that unusual, but four accreditation body logos are at the bottom of the page, with IB prominently used at the top while none list the school.
I don't believe it is common for schools to acquire accreditation from more than one. |
I found it listed on both WASC and IB sites. Try searching for 'Beijing' rather than BISS. |
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SH_Panda

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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:50 am Post subject: |
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That 'huijia' school seems to have IB accreditation though, so I'm not sure what to think.
(that's the school with all the awful reviews on here and elsewhere) |
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SH_Panda

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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:50 am Post subject: |
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| Non Sequitur wrote: |
| The word barf is a ubiquitous British term for puke or puke-making. |
Barf is absolutely nothing like a British term. |
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Non Sequitur
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SH_Panda

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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Non Sequitur wrote: |
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/barf
Nothing British about the Cambridge Dictionary. |
Well, of course it is a word in British English. The British dictionary is full of words that are American in origin, such as 'moron'.
The word 'barf' is one of the most American words out there. To see someone describe it with such authority as British is so laughably bizarre, I just had to comment. |
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Non Sequitur
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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| If you listen to the audio cues they are provided with both American and British accents. |
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The bear
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Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Non Sequitur wrote: |
| If you listen to the audio cues they are provided with both American and British accents. |
British people have been known to use the word, but it's definitely not British.
Just because there's a British accent pronunciation doesn't mean it's a British origin word. Movie is commonly used, but it's origin is definitely from across the pond.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=barf |
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