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seanie



Joined: 28 Nov 2003
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Location: m�xico

PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not to worry, Scott. There are loads of places in just about every city. If you avoid airports, posh neighbourhoods, or touristy places, you can expect to pay between 10 and 15 pesos an hour. If you're truly broke, and you just need to check your messages quickly, there's free Internet at Telmex offices.
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MELEE



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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Location: The Mexican Hinterland

PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 3:24 pm    Post subject: Re: phone and internet connections Reply with quote

scott wilhelm wrote:
Here in the U.S. I use a cell phone as my only phone. Is this a good idea in Mexico ? Also, I use computers in public libraries because I just don't want to spend the money for a computer or monthly internet service. Most of the internet bars, lounges ,etc here in St. Louis are out of business. Can they still be found in abundance in Mexico ?
Thanks,



Scott,

I use a cell phone as my only phone here in Mexico, because well, that is the only option I have! If I wanted to have a land line installed in my home, I'd have to get 35 of my neighbors to go in on it, then the phone company would consider laying lines to our neighborhood.
I've only had it for about a month, last week I was sitting in an office and it was in my bag, ringing and ringing, until the guy I was talking to said, "Is somebody calling you?". After six years without a phone, I'm not used to it. There are lots of public phoneing stations around Mexico, and I've just used those up until now. If you think you'll be calling the US much, IUSACEL has some sort of plan that has cheap rates to the US, but I don't know the details, but be warned the ONLY company that truely has "national coverage" is TELCEL, and even with TELCEL, I have to go out on my terrace to make a call! If you plan to stick to big cities you won't have this problem, but if you want to use it on your rafting trips, you'll probably want to go with TELCEL. Also, I've managed to stay ignorant about cell phones until last month, but it seems there are two types, one with a "chip" and one without. In a mountainous country like Mexico, you want the one without--other wise you can only make calls while standing within sight of one of the antentas. (which in my town is the ten block radius around the Telmex office)

Internet cafes have gone bust in the US, because so many people have computers at home now. But in Mexico, they're still a booming business. A town has to be REALLY small to not have an internet cafe. In my town, there's one on almost every block in the center of town and one in each of the outlaying neighborhoods. Plus, most places will charge the fraction of the hour, so if you just go in to check your email for an important message, you pay like two pesos. Or like Seanie said, in the TELMEX office its free, but they are only open from like 9:00 to 1:00 Monday to Friday Sad
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Punter



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 5:39 pm    Post subject: Re: phone and internet connections Reply with quote

scott wilhelm wrote:
Most of the internet bars, lounges ,etc here in St. Louis are out of business. Can they still be found in abundance in Mexico ?
Thanks,


Scott
When I was down in Playa Del Carmen there were Intenet cafes on almost every street, same with the non-hotel district of Cancun. The rates were very cheap and the service was good.

However, my girlfriend and I are still bringing down her laptop for an all-in-one movie/music/video game player. It will be a lot of fun until it's stolen Wink
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Olivia



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks everyone for your great responses!

They were very informative.

But will my laptop really be stolen????????????????

I'm going to be living in an apartment/house with iron bars in the windows. I'm planning on bringing it in a backpack that doesn't look like a laptop carrier.

Only one person, and that's the person that is living in my apartment in Monterrey, has told me my laptop won't get stolen and that it is safe to bring it. Other than her, everyone (people from this board) have told me that it will be stolen.

Has everyone gotten their laptop stolen in Mexico? Or are there lucky people who don't have that happen to them?
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MELEE



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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Location: The Mexican Hinterland

PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been a laptop owner in Mexico for the last five years and never had my laptop stolen. First thing to consider is that I live in a small town that has very low crime levels. The second thing to consider is that most of that time the laptop lived in my office. I kept it in a locked drawer, in my locked office, in a locked building on a realitivly small fenced-in campus patrolled by guards.

But in any situation there are a few tips to help keep your laptop safe.

1) Don't carry it around in one of those black look-everyone-I-have-a-laptop bags. Get a laptop backpack or other non-descript looking bag to carry it in.

2) Get dark cutains, and try not to use the laptop in sight of the windows. The fewer people who know you have it the better.

3) Treat is with upmost care and respect, so that people who do know you have it see that you value it. If you act like computers are a dime a dozen to you, someone will be more likely to think--I need this a heck of a lot more than they do--and steal it from you.

4) USE A VOLTAGE REGULATOR--not a serge protector--a regulator, okay that one's not related to crime, but you need to keep it safe from dodgy wiring as well.
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Olivia



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Melee --- thank you! Very Happy
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ls650



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

moonraven wrote:
I think it's a little questionable to try to bring your world/lifestyle with you to another country. If I don't need a computer of my own--and I am always working on at least 2 books as well as articles and trying to keep u pmy weblog--why should you?


Dang my evil Western lifestyle, but I really do miss my laptop. Sad
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Ben Round de Bloc



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a PC with Internet connection in my home. It's a luxury I wouldn't want to give up. Much of the work I am required to do for my job must be done on a computer (exam writing and revising, materials development, etc.) We have to turn in floppy disks and backup disks with exams and materials on them. With my teaching schedule and very few computers for too many people to use at school, it would be extremely difficult for me to depend solely on school computers. They are available at limited times due to the number of teachers and students wanting to use them at the same time as well as the enforced security policies. I can't get to a school computer whenever I want, 24/7, because either the campus gates are locked and/or the rooms are locked where the computers are kept during much of my "free time." There are Internet cafes in many parts of the city -- lots of them downtown -- but none within miles of my neighborhood. The few times when my computer has been on the blink, it has been a real hassle trying to keep up with the computer-produced things I'm required to do as part of my job. Although the university provides computers for each administrator's office, such is not the case for its teachers. I don't have an office, cubicle, desk, storage space, or computer at school.
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saraswati



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

moonraven wrote:
I think it's a little questionable to try to bring your world/lifestyle with you to another country.

This comment is completely inappropriate and smacks of the bigotry you often display in your posts.

I know a number of Mexicans who have computers at home. Does this mean that they have acquiesced to a lifestyle other than their own? Please...I think not. They too have found that it's easier to have a computer at home in order to schedule work around one's activities rather than around what time such and such Cyber center is open or when a computer is available at work.
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magpie



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

moonraven wrote:
I think it's a little questionable to try to bring your world/lifestyle with you to another country. . . . I always jhave had a pc wherever I have worked. And I also use Internet cafes, which are plentiful all over Latin America. If I don't need a computer of my own--and I am always working on at least 2 books as well as articles and trying to keep u pmy weblog--why should you?


First, I find it presumptious for you to assume everyone's situation is the same as yours. You have no idea what Olivia's reasons for bringing a laptop to Mexico are, any more than you know why I need to bring mine. Personally, I in addition to teaching I will be doing educational consulting and need the use of my powerbook at times when it would be inconvenient to use an internet cafe.

Second, your comment about not needing a computer of your own because you have always had a PC where you work puzzles me. If you are using your work computer to write your books, send or respond to personal emails or forum board postings (which I must assume are NOT a requirement of the position for which you are allowed computer usage) then I would question your ethics, unless, of course, you have some sort of "arrangement" in your contract to do so. Since you respond to posts so regularliy here, I would think you must either use your work computer or live in the local internet cafe.

Third, it seems that Mexico as well as the rest of the world is going internet--so bringing "our" culture into it in not the issue at all. This is a choice the Mexican people have, just as any world citizen. We are NOT foisting the internet on them, however, in order for people and businesses to communicate it is becoming a necessity world-wide.

Fourth, Moonraven, the world and the people in it, are not to be made in your image and likeness, no matter how much you think they ought to be. Your caustic remarks to Olivia and to other posters in these forums is rude, insensitive and undignified. Olivia asked for assistance, not criticism and to tell her what she should and shouldn't do, even if it is in your own humble opinion, was uncalled for.

These forums are for help or information. In the spirit of friendlliness one would think you would provide whatever you know to help someone and leave out the editorializing. There's enough of that offline. I know others feel the same way, but perhaps, not many are willing to tell you. Take a rasp to those rough edges, it's sooooo unbecoming and you come off as a bitter old crone!
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scott wilhelm



Joined: 09 Feb 2004
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Location: st louis, mo

PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 5:04 pm    Post subject: phones and internet Reply with quote

I would like to thank all of you who responded to my inquiry about cell phone and internet service. Unless I get a job that requires me to have my own computer, I think I will just use the ones in the internet cafes. Glad to hear there are still a lot of them in Mexico and that they are still cheap.
I'll make sure that I get a cell phone that works well all over the area I'm living in (as well as cell phones can work anyway). I would like to have one that works well not just in the town I'm living in but also out in the countryside. I found out in the Missouri Ozarks on Christmas night just how helpful they can be if your car breaks down. I used to have a bad attitude about cell phones but after having one for a couple of years here in St. Louis, I've come to see how beneficial they can be, not just for ones self but if you happen to see an accident or non-working traffic controls, etc. It has proven especially helpful for Berlitz to reach me quickly in case there is a last minute change in my teaching schedule. The reception is not always great. But usually, it is good enough.
Thanks again for all the info.
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amelie



Joined: 02 Nov 2003
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Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is anyone aware of a cell phone campany that allows free local calls between members of the same family? Also, are there any good companies for high-speed or cable internet connections?

Thanks for your guidance Very Happy
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MELEE



Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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Location: The Mexican Hinterland

PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

amelie,

IUSACEL has a plan where you can make a circle of up to five IUSACEL phones and get free calls between them---not just locally, but nationally. However, (there is always a however Wink ) this is a monthly fee plan (rather than a prepay plan) and its not really cheap. Depending on how much you are going to call and for how long you talk, it may well be cheaper to go with the prepay Amigo plan from TELCEL which allows you to register five local TELCEL numbers to call for 1 peso a minute if your calls are mostly going to be like, "Could you pick up some bread on the way home?"
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moonraven



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Magpie: Very sweet and polite and ooooh so friendly to call me a bitter OLD crone--you couldn't miss getting in your age prejudice, could you? I am entitled to give my opinions on this forum the same as the rest of you--and I am not unconscious enough to demand polite behavior from someone in the same moment as I am insulting him or her. And, although it's absolutely none of your business, one of the reasons I work in the university system where I work is because not only do they support my research and my writing, but they manage to give me some paid leave time to do research out of the country and provide a forum for me to present my work.

I think you know what you can do with that rasp you mentioned....
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ls650



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

moonraven wrote:
I think it's a little questionable to try to bring your world/lifestyle with you to another country.


If I could avoid the nastiness for a minute, seriously...

I really don't get this comment. My having a used, beat-up old laptop in my home is indicative of a "Western lifestyle", yet using a computer in my office isn't? Say what? Huh? Question

So if using a computer is too "Western", what about items like TVs, refridgerators, DVDs, etc? For that matter, how about a flush toilet??
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