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JZer
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3898 Location: Pittsburgh
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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| On Wednesday, I pointed out that the workbook exercise was incorrect. They wanted the students to use much in the affirmative. All I got for correctly the book was scolded for not mentioning that before the class. What am I suppose to do when I do not have my own book and have to share my book with the Taiwanese co-teacher. |
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Rooster_2006
Joined: 24 Sep 2007 Posts: 984
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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You've asked the million dollar question, Rooster. As I see it, anyone in ESL has three basic choices. First, give up and move back home and get a "real" job. Second, just put up with ESL and make the most of it. Third, try and find something else to do other than ESL. The problem with the third is that there simply are not as many opportunities as there are for foreigners back home in our respective countries. I am not saying it isn't possible for someone to get out of teaching, but it is difficult and you really need to know what you want to do or you just need a lot of luck. I am personally going to "try" and continue with ESL as it provides me with time to focus on other projects, which, when I get my shiess together one day, can prove to be much more profitable, albeit unreliable, than teaching. I run a website that is related to ESL in Taiwan and it scares me to see a daily steady stream of people looking at teaching in Taiwan. Most of them are from the USA, UK and Canada, in that order. Obviously the vast majority of them won't come to Taiwan, but there are only so many jobs on this little island. I guess high teacher turn over rates are a good thing Imagine if people never left their jobs or stayed for a minimum of five years... There'd hardly ever be any vacancies... |
Your point about the high turnover is right. If people all came and stayed five years, I'd probably have never found a job.
And it's true, us EFL teachers have three possible choices.
I guess I differ with you on one thing, though -- I do not see my opportunities in Asia as more limited, PROVIDED THAT I have an APRC/other form of PR.
It is true that competing for jobs is far harder here. However, what about starting a business? I think I can list ten types of business right off the top of my head that are more likely to succeed here than in the US:
1. Software business
This is more likely to succeed in Taiwan because of the extremely low cost of living. Low rent, national health care, and cheap labor would cut operating costs to a fraction of what they'd be in the US.
2. Home-based consultant firm
See above.
3. Blogging for cash
The aforementioned cost considerations would make this far more profitable in Taiwan. However, there is also far more material about which to blog in Taiwan.
4. A western-style restaurant
Of course there are the aforementioned cost factors, but in addition, any western restaurant one of us founds is automatically more "credible" than one owned by a Taiwanese person. Essentially, doing this would be the same line of thought as an Asian-American who opens a Chinese or Japanese restaurant in the US.
5. A translations business
For previously mentioned cost reasons, I think this would be more likely to succeed in Taiwan. Furthermore, there is access to cheaper bilinguals, access to more potential services-requiring clients (companies requiring English to Mandarin or Mandarin to English translations), etc.
6. An EFL software firm
There's a huge domestic market for EFL-oriented software here, I believe. Write some good educational software, publish it, and distribute it right here within the country. In addition to the operating costs of the business being lower, there are a great many people looking to learn English.
7. A proofreading firm
See #5 for all the perks of running a translations firm here. Most of the same benefits of operating in Taiwan also apply to running a proofreading firm here.
8. An import/export company
No matter where you locate in Taiwan, you're never far from a major port. See previous statements on lower costs. Taiwan is a market in itself, and there's China right over the strait. I wonder how ECFA would affect this? Doesn't that mean you could import things easily into Taiwan and sell them free of tariffs in China? Wouldn't the vice-versa work as well? I'm not sure.
9. A company catering to expats
Since there are very few anglophone expats in anglophone countries, it'd be rather hard to open something like an expat bar or an expat recreation/tour service. Quite a few people are doing just that in Taiwan.
10. Manufacturing firm
When was the last time you saw a bona fide factory in the US? Bottom line is, American assembly line workers expect $20 an hour, company-provided health care, and working conditions that cannot possibly be offered. That's why all the factories/manufacturing industries are disappearing there. And where do they end up? Here.
You see, I don't think our opportunities here are necessarily more limited, provided we can get APRCs first. The key is to not compete with Taiwanese directly -- instead, BYOB. |
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zipper
Joined: 14 Dec 2009 Posts: 237
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe some bushibans don't offer material support to their foreign EFL teachers, because they are afraid that the teachers will jump ship after so many floggings.  |
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creztor
Joined: 30 Dec 2009 Posts: 476
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Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Rooster, what you listed there is what I call doing your own thing. There are limited job opportunities here working for others outside of anything English related. So, you either need to leave Taiwan, put up with teaching or just do your own thing. You here meaning anyone in the esl business. |
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dangerousapple
Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 292
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:45 am Post subject: |
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What everyone needs to understand is that the effects of that recession from two years ago are still being felt in Taiwan, and are reflected in the bushiban industry. The Taiwanese get spooked about money very easily, and even if they aren't personally feeling any financial stress they will panic from what they see on the news, and stop spending money on things. Quality bushibans that charge a high price are going out of business because no parents will pay the tuition. Shite bushibans that charge a cheap rate are going out of business because parents want high quality...but they don't want to pay for it. It's a no-win situation for a school owner.
Three years ago I owned two language schools here. One was thriving and the other one was just getting by. Since then I've had to shut down the struggling one so that I could save the original one, which was not growing like it used to. Every September I've watched new student enrollments drop, even with a large promotional campaign and various other incentives. My school needs a minimum of 30 new students every year just to maintain its current size. So far this year we've signed up 10. It's not enough. We've had to eliminate both foreign and Chinese positions just to break even this year.
I've been here for 15 years, and have seen the best of the business. I don't think I've seen the worst of it, because I think the worst is on its way now. Thank god I made the exit plan part of my business plan when I opened up my school. We are financially secure, and the school has already met the requirements to either sell it, let others run it and watch a small profit trickle in, or just shut it down and walk away. No matter what, my family and I are out of here by next summer.
I'm not saying EFL is dead in Taiwan, but the market has fundamentally changed in the last few years, and any newcomers are going to have to find unique ways to make it in Taiwan.
That said, thank you Taiwan! I own houses in two countries, and have a nice portfolio of investments, all because of living here.
For all of you posters that keep making lists about what you plan to do, choose one and do it now, because you are going to lose your chance if you wait too long.
Just my 10NT. |
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creztor
Joined: 30 Dec 2009 Posts: 476
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:39 am Post subject: |
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| Great post, dangerousapple. I have always wondered why people told me to open my own school. Going by what I have seen, was told by previous foreign owners of schools and the way the economy is going, opening my own school would be suicide now. Ten years ago? Sure, maybe, but not now. Was only last year that the boss at my old school sat everyone down and said that enrolements were down and we were losing students. Last night while eating dinner I overheard someone sitting near us say that his school is combining classes. It isn't hard to figure out why they are doing that. |
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zipper
Joined: 14 Dec 2009 Posts: 237
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Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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I hate to sound so positive, but my wife said that her school is doing very well. She was given another class, today. She seems to be very optimistic. I remember the days when school loabans would reach for ya on the sidewalk and pull you into the school offering 800 plus NT an hour. I must confess that those days are gone for sure.  |
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creztor
Joined: 30 Dec 2009 Posts: 476
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 1:00 am Post subject: |
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| Zipper, some schools here are also booming, but they are in areas where there is literally no competition nearby. Every school that I worked at in the city has had problems with dropping enrolement numbers. It sucks as well coz during times like these bosses are even more sensitive and if one student leaves your class because he doesn't like you, you better be extra careful to avoid the chopping block. |
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Rooster_2006
Joined: 24 Sep 2007 Posts: 984
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:26 am Post subject: |
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If I go into business selling iPhone apps, charge $9.99 per app, and get a 70% commission, I will only need to sell 143 apps per month to surpass my post-tax buxiban salary.
That's less than five apps sold per day.
I can do it.
No more laoban. No more fickle kids. No more having to re-teach "What is this? It's a ____." for the 1,000,000th time.
Oh man, I can't wait.
I'm reading The Complete Idiot's Guide to Starting a Home-Based Business and am learning a lot. I took some programming/computer courses in uni. I'm going to start learning Objective-C and some other PLs as soon as October 10 rolls around. I can't wait to get this thing off the ground.
EFL is dying a long, painful death. |
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zipper
Joined: 14 Dec 2009 Posts: 237
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 6:42 am Post subject: |
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And I want to move to the countryside where there is no competition and drink more beer. Give more green oil to my wife who bitches all the time about the mosquitoes.  |
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JZer
Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 3898 Location: Pittsburgh
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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While we are at it, I want to find a beautiful wife that will take care of me while I sit at home and read and write all day.
Opps, I just woke up. What a great dream! |
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creztor
Joined: 30 Dec 2009 Posts: 476
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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:40 am Post subject: |
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Don't be a hater... dreams keep us alive  |
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zipper
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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:48 am Post subject: |
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It sounds like JZer knows me.  |
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