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[go2guy]

So you may potentially be asked to reapply for work permission for each position in Spain? Don't they just give you a blanket visa document (with a "valid until ..." note) that shows your status? I'm curious, because in France it's pretty straightforward -- if you're married to a native you get a residency visa with all the work provisions that a native has. Maybe it's different in Spain? (Ah, the beauty of a "common market" eh!)

[spiral78]

In the Netherlands, my work permission was specific to one job. In Luxembourg, it was transferrable. In Belgium, ditto. Spain, new deal. Sure, not everybody's relocating countries as I am (due to spouse's job postings). But it can be an issue even within countries, as was my experience in the Netherlands.
In any case, just one illustration of why the existence of a spouse and his/her nationality could be a useful, pertinent fact to include on a CV.

[SEndrigo]

[SEndrigo]

About the last post, I meant "rigidly," NOT "ridigly"

Some English teacher I am, can't even bloody spell

[CharlesTESOL]

While I am sure that some prospective employers use the photos to discriminate, I don't think that is the reason all schools ask for it. Part of it is just standard operating procedure in Spain. Another maybe what one Director of Studies replied when I asked him about this issue right after I first moved here. He told me he got so many CVs that he couldn�t remember all of the people who go with them. If he didn't have any work available at the time, he knew that since he needed new teachers with some regularity, he would need one again in the near future. So, he always filed the CVs away. When he later went through the file to pull out the CVs of people he wanted to contact about the possibility of work, the photos helped him to recall the applicants. He said he rarely remembered names, but the photos triggered his memory.

Over the years I have known several people of color who have come to Spain and gotten work. Not to say they haven't had to put up with discrimination as they would in so many other countries � and not just regarding work.

One point I haven't heard mentioned is that most people find work in Spain only after coming here to look for it. For example, the DOS I mentioned above was talking about applicants he had already seen personally because they came by with their CV. So, in some cases a lack of response to a CV emailed from abroad might be due to the fact that the applicant is not here.

Good luck,

[Spainish]

[abyssiniangrl]

new york...and that�s also probably where i get my i�m suing attitude from..anyway, in the end, i did get a job...i think it also had a lot to do with timing...i was applying in the middle of summer..Hey, i�m not too proud to admit when i might have been wrong...
BUT I STIILL THINK ASKING FOR PICS AND DEMANDING PERSONAL INFROMATION (age, marital status)is an infringement of our rights!!!!


ps. if this happened in new york, they woud get the pants sued off of them!!!!

[SEndrigo]

[rfx24]

The Europeans are not Enlightened at all, only a handful are. People here descriminate more than in the US. I've lived in Prague and in Paris...I see it all the time. Also Europeans kind of tend to think just because one thing works this way, then they all work that way too. I really thought Europeans were open minded, but I was shocked to be proved wrong. Ive always lived in a big city and don't really see racism and discrimination a lot. It would be different though if I lived in Nowheresville, USA. To see racism and discrimination in big cities like Paris and Prague was a bit shocking.

[Moore]

quote: "The Europeans are not Enlightened at all, only a handful are" ...definitely a bit harsh. The older generations of most countries (in the entire world) quite possibly, but for the younger generations (apart from the inevitable small minority of idiots) that's just not a fair statement.

[QatarChic]

[sheikh radlinrol]

I'm not sure. I've never felt that I was treated badly here because of my nationality but today I've been looking at the readers' comments in MARCA about today's Formula One result. ''Negro de mierda'' etc. Racism exists here, make no mistake about it.

[Moore]

Of course racism exists here, just like everywhere else: I have to say though that I still think that a few readers of Marca (an all-sports "newspaper") are probably not a particularly sound basis for claiming that only a handful of Europeans are open-minded (and therefore by implication the majority are closed-minded/racist).

I would hate to think that the comments of a few Sun readers would be taken to represent the views of my native England!

I don't even know why I'm letting this thread get under my skin: I think it's because it's kind of sad to lump us all in together with a few vocal/visible idiots when the vast vast majority of Europeans are very much not closed-minded/racist.

Spain has come a remarkably long way in the few decades since it was a closed-off sleepy anachronistic dictatorship to become a country that two years ago became the third country in the world to legalize same-sex marriages: not that closed minded then really

[QatarChic]

As I mentioned in my post racism is racism and it exists everywhere, whether here in the Gulf (where I work), or in Europe. What I found particularly offensive was the OPs comment (who is entitled to his/her opinion) in stating that Europeans were not 'enlightened'- I am not saying that Spain is free of racism, I just never heard colleagues mention that they were discriminated against...or came face to face with it

People are often too quick to judge an entire group of people based on a bad experience....it depends on lots of other factors age, education, context etc At the end of the day it IS wrong, it DOES exist, but we shouldn't GENERALISE a whole group of people because of it.....

[sheikh radlinrol]