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[justcolleen]

I, the conservative independent that I am, have a confession to make:

I, um, bought a ticket to Fahrenheit 911 last night.

But that's not all. I, ah, went into the theater and watched it. Okay, so I considered buying a ticket to Cat Woman then sneaking in, but my concience got ahold of me and I couldn't go through with it.

And I can tell ya, because I saw it with my own two eyes, it's not Michael Moore telling lies. If there's any fibbing going on, it's the people he interviewed who did it.

Colleen

p.s. -

[guest of Japan]

Pardon me Communist Smurf, but I must give a little defense for Ted Kennedy. I used to work at a yacht club in NY and I met much of the world's rich and powerful. Ted Kennedy stood out as a sincere and thoughtful man. He was also kind and gracious. His wife is one of the sweetest human beings I've ever met.

Most of the rich and powerful people I met were self-serving, greedy, exploitive parasites. Ted Kennedy did not fit their mold.

[skeptic]

CS posted:

How can you believe any of his recent lies after reading this link?

http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-in-Fahrenheit-911.htm

I thought this was a good rebuttal to the F-911 propaganda. I am certain that much of this movie was propaganda and misdirection: but Mike has not denied it. He has claimed not to have held himself to the standards of a documentary--that somehow his movie represents a blurring/fusion of art and docudrama. His intention was to shake Americans out of their complacency and cause them to look around at what is happening to their institutions and priveleges with a more critical eye. I think he reached that objective. I also think he is fighting by the rules of engagement as outlined by the current administration. (My reasons for this belief are too complex and varigated to get into here--but I only claim it as a statement of my opinion. If I were to decide to go persuasive, I would detail those reasons.)

Anyway, I downloaded and filed away Mr. Kopel's rebuttal for future educational use. However, I do not think that his credentials are as unbiased as he claims--despite his affiliation with the Independence Institute. His powerful conservative slant is evident, as is his support of president Bush.

It is, in and of itself, a rhetorical device, for him to preface his article with a tacit claim to objectivity when is motives are obviously far from objective. It is important to note that he does not detail his own sources for the rebuttals he makes. That, as you probably well know, gives them no more validity than the outrageous claims they refute. It will make good grist for a lesson on identifying logical fallacies in the media--on both sides, so I thank you for the source.

skeptic.

[Seth]

By the power invested in my by Dave, I hereby announce that the "General Discussion" board is now called "American Soundbite Politics Discussion" board.

Now I'll sling a little mud:

More RNC speeches:
-The Importance of Edumacation by George W. Bush.
-Preserving the Sanctity of Marriage and the War on Drugs by Rush Limbaugh.
-Preventing the Arms Trade to Muslim Extremists by Oliver North.
-Healing the Racial Divide by Trent Lott.
-The Dangers of Religious Extremism by Jerry Falwell.
-Civility in Political Discourse by D-ck Cheney.
-A special roundtable discussion on the Liberal Media, Moderated by Bill O'Reilly, featuring: Rush Limbaugh, G. Gordon Liddy, Micheal Reagan, Joe Scarborough, Sean Hannity, Pat Buchanan, Pat Robertson, Cal Thomas, Doctor Laura, Rupert Murdock, Matt Drudge, and Ann Coulter...and some Liberal guy.

[moonraven]

Picking on fat people would also appear to be a dangerous proposition--even the current National Geographic--not exactly in the vanguard of the media--is calling an obesity a global epedemic. Seems a little imprudent to pick on a group that for sheer numbers--not to mention weight--could squash you like a gnat....

[Communist Smurf]

[nomadic]

[moonraven]

Being politically incorrect, with prejudices seeping out of every pore, also says a lot about your character.

Stupidity probably has some fingerprints that could be checked out, too.

[Seth]

[extoere]

Guest of Japan: Rich and Powerful. Gee, you're an experienced chap!
Ted Kennedy. Not sure about that one. But I'm sure Joanna Kopeckne's survivors are! Oh! His wife? Which ONE????

cheers,
extoere

[nawlinsgurl]

[guest of Japan]

[Communist Smurf]

[extoere]

Commie Smurf: You left out:

(After Kennedy's 2nd toast)
1. Clinton does Kerry's wife backstage.

(After Kennedy's 3rd toast)
2. Hillary does Kerry's wife backstage.

cheers,
extoere

[Communist Smurf]