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PAULH



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iwantmyrightsnow wrote:

Paul,

you just gave completely wrong information. Tsuruhashi is nowhere near the keihan line. I think you mean kyobashi.

You will need to take Keihan line to Yodoyabsahi (last stop on Keikan). Then change to Midosuji line and take it down to Namba ( maybe 4? stops). The Mm centre is about a 10 min walk from the station.



Sorry you are right. I know about Kyobashi- just got them mixed up as Tsuruhashi is on the Kintetsu not Keihan.
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Dorman



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Location: Nova Scotia / Osaka

PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PaulH, Iwantmyrightsnow, and Li-ka:

Thanks for all the info. Sitting here in Nova Scotia the directions do not make a whole lot of sense, but I'm sure that will be quickly cured once we arrive.

PaulH, I think rural was the wrong choice of words, I'm well aware Osaka is a big city. I guess I was inquiring more on what type of surroundings there'd be, such as living in a downtown sector, etc.



Li-ka - Greetings! Maybe we'll cross ways in a couple of weeks. We're getting in the afternoon of the 22nd. As far as being punctual, that's me down to the letter. I usually get to work now 30-45 minutes before my start time. I cannot stand feeling rushed so I always give myself lots of time.

Call me twisted, but I am looking forward to having a bit of a walk simply for the exercise. And I won't have to walk in the Canadian winter, yes! Very Happy I'll definently have to check out the park if I get feeling lonely for some greenery.

If you don't mind me asking, where are you from? Really looking forward to joining the fun (I could reply with a bum shake! Razz ), and meeting some new people.


Blue skies,

Brad.
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PAULH



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dorman wrote:

PaulH, I think rural was the wrong choice of words, I'm well aware Osaka is a big city. I guess I was inquiring more on what type of surroundings there'd be, such as living in a downtown sector, etc.

Brad.


I dont live in Moriguchi but i have passed through there a few times. You might say a satellite of Osaka, but there will be a residential area, shoppin arcades (Mega-shopping malls a-la the US are unheard of here becuase of lack of space) though there are department stores.
Pachinko parlors and light industry. Railways and power lines everywhere and lots of concrete and tar seal.

Downtown Osaka for want of a better word is Umeda, one stop from yodoyobashi. JR Osaka is where all the train connections are to Kobe and the Shinakansen. Umeda has the worlds largest underground shopping mall. The strip between Umeda and Namba, about 5 kms is the business district. Quite pretty with lots of trees and tall office buildings on either side. The 5th Ave of Osaka.

Namba and Shinsaibashi is the enternatinment and niteclub district with bars, restaurants and nightclubs. About half a dozen bars for foreigners though i havent been for years. Live house music and bands in Shinsaibashi etc.

Namba is where you connect to go out to the airport.
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Li-ka



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dorman,

I'm from New York State. I've been told that you can be surprised by how cold the winters get here. There is little to no insulation in these Japanese houses, so it can get colder inside the house than outside (cause there's no sun to warm everything up) so you might not be escaping from those Canadian winters. On a positive note, (or at least I'm hoping!) it seems that winter here is only about two months long.

By bum shaking and FUN, I was talking about our recent quakes. It looks like you'll get to miss all the aftershocks Wink It's not really a great way to meet people. (c:

Enjoy your last few weeks at home!
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Dorman



Joined: 22 Jul 2004
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Location: Nova Scotia / Osaka

PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Li-ka,

I'm used to cold winters. We're right on the atlantic ocean here, and the winters are very long and very cold. I can relate to having an apartment colder than outside, we lived in a basement apartment a couple years ago (while poor university students) with drafty doors/windows, little insulation, and heat that we couldn't afford. Hooded sweaters and winter hats for all! I'll just be glad when there's not 2-3 feet of snow on the ground.

I didn't even put two and two together about bum shaking/earthquakes. It was a long night at work...

I plan to enjoy my last days here, so many people to see and thing to do. My girlfriend is bouncing off the walls excited, and it's really starting to hit me now. Seemed really far off before.
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melirae



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Dorman!

The MM Center is great- in my humble opinion anyway! It is very overwhelming at first, after the first 3 days of training I was worried that I couldn:t do it alone and with only 10 minutes to prep. Now I`m on my 3rd day `alone` (ie with no trainer) and I have no worries at all. I find the 10 minutes ample time to get a lesson together. They are laid out for you very well- you just have to deliver.

Osaka is pretty cool and I have barely ventured from my immediate neighborhood. I live only 3 stops away from the Namba station, which is where the MM Center is. There is plenty of walking when you want to go places, so have no fear.

I`m getting a Canadian roommate next week- maybe she`s coming in with the same batch of newbies that you`re with! I`ll keep an eye out for you at the center when you start orientation.

See you soon!
Melinda
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Dorman



Joined: 22 Jul 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Melirae,

Hey, thanks so much for the reply. I'm already anticipating the first few days of work to be overwhelming. I always find we question ourselves, and fear the uncertainty of a new position. My last job was like that as well. A lot of information thrown at you in training, and a few days later you're thrown to the wolves! Smile

Chances are pretty good that your roommate would be on my flight. Does she arrive the 22nd? I'm on the very east coast of Canada, so we make to stops moving westward, and then straight over to Japan.

Brad.
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Zzonkmiles



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I work at the MM Center and have worked there for over a year now. Send me a PM if you have any specific questions. I think the NOVA MM gig is probably one of the best of the Big 4 eikaiwa gigs available. The salary is certainly the greatest and the workload seems to be less than what you would have at a branch school.

As for Moriguchi, the Tanimachi subway line (the purple one) has a stop there. The Keihan also stops there, although you'd have to ride it west to Yodoyabashi and then transfer to the Midosuji subway line (the busy red one) and take it three steps south to Namba. The MM Center is about a 5-7 minute walk from Namba Station and is quite convenient. Moriguchi is in northeastern Osaka and is close to Takatsuki and Kyoto, I do believe. Getting from Yodoyabashi to Namba will take about 10-15 minutes.

The three main centers of Osaka, in my opinion, are Umeda, Shinsaibashi/Namba, and Tennoji. Umeda is quite classy and has a lot of good restaurants. It's also a good place to shop. Shinsaibashi/Namba is more of an entertainment district. Namba has more shopping and Shinsaibashi has more bars and night clubs. The two areas are close to each other. Tennoji is probably the busiest transportation hub in Osaka (after Umeda, perhaps).

Osaka has 8 subway lines that cover most of the city and are easy to navigate. There are also several other train lines that take you out of Osaka to nearby cities (the Nankai, Hanshin, Hankyu, Keihan, JR, and Hankai lines, for example). Encircling Osaka is the JR Loop Line, which is probably the most important train line for you to become familiar with. Living in a neighborhood serviced by the Loop Line is very convenient. Rent in neighborhoods outside of the loop line tends to be cheaper than rent in neighborhoods inside of it. Riding the trains is also a good way to learn Japanese, as it gives you practice hearing the stock announcements and reading the station names.

As for the other questions asked in this thread:

NOVA apartments are not co-ed. I did speak with one person in the housing department who said that some of the apartments in rural areas were co-ed, but that this was rare. You are not able to select your roommate, so it's really a luck of the draw.

NOVA apartments are fully furnished and are generally conveniently located (near a station). You can expect to pay 50-70,000 yen/month for a NOVA apartment. Note that this rent is per person, and not necessarily per apartment. So you could say that NOVA's making a profit off of you by living in their apartments. However, I think this "profit" offsets the key money you don't have to pay, the routine maintenance for normal wear and tear, and replacing/delivering furniture. If you want to move out, you have to give 30 days' notice. You can move out on shorter notice, but if NOVA cannot find a new roommate to replace you, you'll have to pay for the entire 30 days, even if you're not living in the apartment for all of those days. That's fair enough. (The subject of NOVA rent and apartments is another thread.)

The Japanese winter is nothing to sneeze at. The poor insulation and lack of central air conditioning makes both summer and winter oppresively uncomfortable. Last year, Osaka got snow flurries and an occasional dusting of snow. But I don't recall anybody here shoveling snow from their driveways and whatnot. The winter here seems to be similar to winter in the southern Mid-Atlantic or northern Southeastern US, such as North Carolina/Virginia or northern Georgia/Tennessee. The weather is quite pleasant now, but it should start getting a bit chilly in mid-October at night. I think winter lasts from December through mid-March. It's a long, cold season, I think. And the further north you go, the more severe it gets. Kyoto gets much more snow than Osaka, I do believe.

Apologies to the OP for going so off topic with this post. I hope someone finds this information to be useful.
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stillnosheep



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Key money?

How much is the Key money divided by 35 teachers over 20 years.

Wise up.

sns
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Glenski



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Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN

PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2004 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've been told that you can be surprised by how cold the winters get here. There is little to no insulation in these Japanese houses, so it can get colder inside the house than outside (cause there's no sun to warm everything up) so you might not be escaping from those Canadian winters. On a positive note, (or at least I'm hoping!) it seems that winter here is only about two months long.


Are you referring only to the Osaka region?

Here in Sapporo, we have snow on the ground from November to April.

As for "cold" temperatures, it's all relative, and you have to consider whether you are outside or inside. That is, outside temps can be -15C in Sapporo, but if you have an older apartment with leaky windows and poor insulation, your indoor temperature can be quite chilly. Newer apartments aren't so bad. In almost all cases, heat is provided by a single space heater, not central heating, and since it is a major fire hazard in the land of earthquakes, you shouldn't leave it running during the day when you are working. That means, it'll be chilly when you get home.

No sun??? This is not the Arctic.
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Canuk girl



Joined: 27 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 5:40 am    Post subject: my rant about Nova Reply with quote

I recently returned home from my year with Nova. First, to answer some of your questions:

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Is NOVA really that bad? I mean the people who hate it are extremely negative and I normally don't find those comments to be the most reliable.

I tried to be positive, and I lived with my boyfriend who's alter ego is
mr. Optimisticpostivethinker Tothepointofbeingannoyingman. And even he was right pissed off with them by the end. And that is being objective.


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Also, with roomates, are the co-ed or same sex? How do they place you? do they just put you where there is a vacancy?


They're going to put you whereever they need a teacher. My boyfriend's first brach was 1.5 hours away with transfers and train rides, and walking. He was not pleased getting home at 11 pm every night. However.. thats off topic.. they put you with same sex, but in a
co workers situation, when his roommate moved out they moved in some girls, and told him he could stay or find a place of his own. He chose the latter option.


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What is this stuff with roomates moving out and getting new places? can you do that? what is a gaijwan or whatever its called? How do you find one?
Move out... we found out we were being charged an extra 30,000 EACH a month (thats a total of 60,000) more than the Japanese tennants.... and we were, by far, in the worst apartment in the building. Beside our bedroom windows: the propane tanks that they dragged one morning a week at 6 am to and from trucks. It was like the sound of a keg on concrete, multiplied by 10x. Two bicycle racks where people parked motorcycles.. with loud mufflers.. that they rode in at 2am. The stairs.. which had the constant clicking of high heels. At first we tried to deal.. but paying 160,000Y per month for that was not worth it. Oh yeah.. and there were cracks in the walls, through which cockroaches crawled. (we were very very clean people.. and once we taped up the huge cracks in the walls we stopped seeing them).


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I've heard of people just breaking their contracts and leaving? can you do this? without penalty?

I did it.. and I have never heard of a contract completion bonus from any people who stayed the full contract. They gave me a hassle for leaving early on a new contract, but they lied to me about being full time. They told me to come on a part time visa, and in Jan. I would start full time. I started my new contract this August, and I actually didn't tell them I was leaving it on purpose, knowing that I would be leaving at the beginning of September. My boyfriend coudn't justify staying for another two weeks (past his vacation thats what was left). He didn't like knowing that he was putting money into bad people's pockets.


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What is the best part of NOVA? The worst?


The best part is that they do have a lot of resources if you can find them in a tiny techers room. My room was maybe... 8 feet by 10 feet with the filing cabinets in them.. and we had 16 teachers on staff. Imgaine the hustle and bustle in there.
They are getting new textbooks.
If you get a good A.T. you're golden.
You will meet some very cool people (friends)
The Japanese staff can be fantastic, MAKE FRIENDS WITH THEM!!

The worst.. 10 mins to plan lessons, and make notes, and find files.
Students booking into class 3 minutes before a lesson starts
Having a terrible AAM. I know a guy who did a lesson exactly as it said in a book. One student complained, and the poor guy.. on his own time had to plan 10 new lessons.. and on his own time.. teach them to the AAM.
When you yawn in class because they schedule you till nine, you live 1.5 hours away, and you have to be back the next day at 9:30. But when a student falls asleep.. OUT COLD in a class... you can't say a word (fortunately that only happened to other people.. I would have gone nuts if it was me).
They send you to other branches.. all the time, so you have to go early to find the branch, and because you don't know the transportation route. THIS CAN BE GOOD THOUGH.. if you can recycle lessons with students you don't know.
They lie to you.
The managers keep these little notebooks with everything in it.. if you were happy that day... ohh its written in the book.. if you scratched your butt in the teachers room.. its in the book.. if you raised an eyebrow like you were thinking about scratching your butt in the teachers room.. its in the book
They tell you not to bring Japanese in the class... but they now want you to use their travel brochures for the OTC (a Nova company) in the class... and sell them.


and that is that.. sorry.. negative.. but I think honestly its objective.
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Li-ka



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glenski wrote:
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I've been told that you can be surprised by how cold the winters get here. There is little to no insulation in these Japanese houses, so it can get colder inside the house than outside (cause there's no sun to warm everything up) so you might not be escaping from those Canadian winters. On a positive note, (or at least I'm hoping!) it seems that winter here is only about two months long.


Are you referring only to the Osaka region?

Here in Sapporo, we have snow on the ground from November to April.

As for "cold" temperatures, it's all relative, and you have to consider whether you are outside or inside. That is, outside temps can be -15C in Sapporo, but if you have an older apartment with leaky windows and poor insulation, your indoor temperature can be quite chilly. Newer apartments aren't so bad. In almost all cases, heat is provided by a single space heater, not central heating, and since it is a major fire hazard in the land of earthquakes, you shouldn't leave it running during the day when you are working. That means, it'll be chilly when you get home.

No sun??? This is not the Arctic.


Sorry, Glenski, I should have re-stated that I live in Osaka. Many have told me here that the apartments do end up colder inside than out during winter. It gets a lot warmer down here in the summer-time than it does up there, so there is not much insulation. My roommates described to me how all of them were huddled in the living room around a space heater last winter.

I was referring to the fact that the sun stays outside the house and warms everything up out there, but you don't usually have the sun blasting into your house to warm it up a bit. Sorry I was not clearer.
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AgentMulderUK



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 2:46 pm    Post subject: Nice post, Canuk girl Reply with quote

Nice post, Canuk girl.

Let's hope your insights will save a few people from Nova.

Their rude and unprofessional attitude become apparent BEFORE I even left London. The only time they were nice was at the interview. Once they had my signature they were despicable.

The only way to bring these people down is to stop working for them, so the company stops raking in all the profits at the teachers' expense (over-inflated rent), ripping off the Japanese students, etc, etc, etc

Does this sound like a personal crusade? I hope so.
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