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[Boy Wonder]

That was Nigel Jemson...scorer of the winning goal in the 1990 League cup Final.....and a player bought from Preston North End...after less than a dozen appearances after being recommened to Clough by his greengrocer

[Sadken]

[Boy Wonder]

He'd have gone the same way as Stan Bowles.....i.e kicked right out of the club.
And Bowles was a legendarily gifted player and showman.....Dyer is a bits and pieces runner not fit to lace Bowlsies boots let alone clean them!

[benno]

hi
this peice is from the guaridan (oh yes i am a guardian reader!!!)

Clough was the best - no argument

Sad though the loss of Brian Clough is, at least the passing of English football's great iconoclast brought the best from Fleet Street. The eulogies were moving and sincere, and there was a real sense of regret that the unique individual who prompted them all probably never realised how deeply and universally he was cherished.

Even in death, however, Clough did not seem to be accorded quite his full due. That he was the best manager England never had was unanimously agreed, but most critics stopped short of suggesting that he might have been the best manager English football has seen. The case was arguable.

Yet who stands above Clough in the pantheon? The achievements of Matt Busby and Bill Shankly appear, and perhaps are, more solid because of the edifices Manchester United and Liverpool have become. Bob Paisley and Sir Alex Ferguson extended already imposing buildings. With Derby County and Nottingham Forest back in relative obscurity by the time Clough's obituaries came to be written, it is all too easy to dismiss events in the East Midlands three decades ago as a temporary blip, a short-lived local phenomenon. As with the miners' strike, which throws up similarly grainy footage (and sometimes the same people), it is getting harder to believe that these things actually happened.

So let's quickly review the facts. Clough won two European Cups. To date only Paisley can match that. He also won league titles with two different clubs. Only Herbert Chapman and Kenny Dalglish have done that. So already there is a case for Clough being out on his own, but here's the clincher. Clough took over both Derby and Forest when they were Second Division nobodies. Twice promotion was quickly followed by a championship, in the case of Forest within a season. The European Cup followed 12 months later. It is true, and often forgotten, that Dalglish led Blackburn out of the Second Division, but the Jack Walker years at Ewood really were a short-lived local phenomenon. Depending on what measure is used, the most successful manager might be Chapman, Paisley or Ferguson. The only one with the wow factor to get anywhere near Clough is Ferguson, based on his achievements at both Aberdeen and Manchester United[/quote]