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etx
Joined: 15 Apr 2004 Posts: 26
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Glenski

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Posts: 12844 Location: Hokkaido, JAPAN
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 12:18 am Post subject: |
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Glenski: you are correct, I should of defined which type of teaching. . .
I am thinking of K-12. Does this seem feasible? |
In Japan, fairly unlikely, as most of the time you will need teaching experience WITH Japanese students first (often acquired by teaching eikaiwa, if this is your first job).
I work in a high school in Japan and base my statements on that. Moreover, teaching elementary school kids these days means you will have to help the Japanese teacher a lot. They recently began offering English to elementary school kids, but the government didn't give schools enough time to get trained in the proper methods, plus elementary school teachers speak less English than high school teachers.
If you land a job at an eikaiwa that caters only to younger kids, you won't need the certification, but it sure helps to know what you're doing because you will be the only teacher in the room!
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| As for the OP, if he's thinking of teaching in a proper school abroad then he ought to get teacher certifictation and spend a couple of years teaching in his own country. |
Not necessarily. Teacher certification is not transferrable in some (most?) countries anyway. Plus, teaching in your home country (ESL) is somewhat different than teaching in a non-native English speaking country (EFL) because, mainly, you will be facing a homogenous population of speakers (Japanese only). |
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DZNZ
Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 28
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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Made 70 grand in the past as "technical writer";
buys a BERLITZ TEFL cert,
and comes to Taiwan to date?
What does he need a TEFL cert for? |
Well my goodness, you are so very smart! Look, look!
You have already sized me up? Please mind your own business, friend. |
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DZNZ
Joined: 23 Sep 2004 Posts: 28
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Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 12:18 pm Post subject: Re: Look Before You Leap |
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Trojan Horse

Joined: 30 Dec 2003 Posts: 61 Location: Europe
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Hi there DZNZ,
Sounds like you've reached a turning point. I don't know that I would whole-heartedly recommend a move into TEFL but good luck if that is what you want to do. There are some reasonable jobs out there but you need specific qualifications and experience for those (generally MA applied linguistics or something similar, CELTA/DELTA, 2 years full-time teaching experience as a minimum).
I agree with other posters who mentioned CELTA. You can do these certificates in an intensive course (4 weeks) or a couple of evenings a week. I did the intensive one and it was not truly enjoyable. Google "International House London" and check out the world map to see which schools offer CELTA near you. There are probably additional schools not included on there, so maybe mail an enquiry about that. The courses are not dead cheap but halfway reasonable.
Never heard of this particular school you mentioned, I'd recommend either the CELTA or Trinity certificate. Both are offered by various schools/bodies. Those are the ones most schools ask for.
You're dissatisfied with the politics involved in your job. Fair enough. In all truth though there is plenty of that in TEFL jobs too, plus split shifts, travelling back and forth between shcools and business premises and as you've heard pay is for the most part bad.
Before investing a whole lot in this career, I'd try it out and see how you enjoy it and how you feel about the lifestyle and conditions. Did you say which countries you were interested in? I might be able to offer more specific advice then. |
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hamel
Joined: 03 May 2004 Posts: 95
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2004 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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to the original poster: please don't get too frustrated with these comments. money is not everything as you know and i respect someone who wants to help others. you can do a lot of good as an esl teacher in korea. the trick is to find the right job--korea is a good place to learn the trade. then maybe get a cert. or degree in esl or teaching after getting some experience.
best of luck. |
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