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jenny-pnet · Joined: 16 Apr 2003 Posts: 59

Hi TassieRose,
Don't take offense. It's just that a lot of people have had their fingers burnt working at Language Schools in Hong Kong and the idea of a forum like this is to try and help as best possible so others don't end up suffering also. Hong Kong has really tightened up its employment eligibility regulations, and so it seems strange that they have now agreed to a Working Holiday Scheme in favour of Australia and New Zealand. That's not to say it isn't possible though. Out of curiosity, is this information (ie the info you posted) available on the HK Immigration website? Or was it emailed to you from your potential employer?

Joachim · Joined: 01 Oct 2003 Posts: 311 Location: Brighton, UK

Good luck with everything Tassie-Rose, I hope Hong Kong works out well for you.

Just FYI, If you do want to do some serious travelling, make sure you bring money from home, as you won't be able to save anything on a $12,000 salary!

Another option is to arrive, work at Deborah and then job search while you're here. Most people in HK will only hire someone they have met in person.

millie · Joined: 29 Oct 2003 Posts: 413 Location: HK

Rosy:

badtyndale · Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 181 Location: In the tool shed

Is the red ink to admonish me? or to express anger... or embarrassment? I'm always delighted when people show their true colours.

Ludwig · Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 10:33 am Post subject:

Ludwig · Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 10:48 am Post subject:

prplfairy · Joined: 06 Jun 2003 Posts: 102

What a nasty and petty man!

millie · Joined: 29 Oct 2003 Posts: 413 Location: HK

I might agree with you, prplfairy, that Ludwig's message is expressed in a rather abrupt way.

However, what is the substance of Ludwig's message?

That is far more important and might save someone a lot of time, money and heartache.
Perhaps not; perhaps Rosy has got this deal under wraps but almost everyone except her directly contradicts this view.
Does is mean they are all negative people or..... um Shocked

M

prplfairy · Joined: 06 Jun 2003 Posts: 102

I'm glad to see that Ludwig edited his original post. We can certainly disagree here without being cruel and malicious.

tassierose · Joined: 29 Sep 2004 Posts: 21

take a look under 'working holiday visas' in the search engine of the Immigration website. when you bring up the page its about 1/2 way down.
i think everyone is making this whole situation more difficult than it actually is and negativity is not very becoming.
im sure you guys are all having a great time in Hong Kong and it annoys you that me trying to gain a working holiday visa can also get employment.
im just doing what I have been given the chance to do.
oh dear, im using red again......

badtyndale · Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 181 Location: In the tool shed

I should think by now that everyone has read enough to realise that you are blinded by your ego and unwilling, or unable, to digest the substance of the responses to your primitive questions. If you must be reminded, the essence of your original post concerned legality and therefore, by implication, your welfare. The issue of obtaining a visa is secondary.

Someone, please take the crayons away from her! Evil or Very Mad

tassierose · Joined: 29 Sep 2004 Posts: 21

Badtyndale, I have digested the responses of everyone who has given their advice and I do appreciate it. What I don't appreciate is the way people put their advise out. It's negative, it's bitter and it makes me more determined than ever to have a really good time, however long I am there for.
And don't talk to me about the size of MY ego, check yourself before downgrading others.
ps. what's wrong with crayons anyway????? Laughing

2 over lee · Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 2:28 am Post subject:

Rosy, go for it, as in, don�t let this board have a negative influence on real life plans. Although please not the colours!

One thing I hope you realise is that Batyndale is actually just Ludwig using another moniker. Sigh.

He now goes around as Robert somebody with an Orwell picture to boot, talk about doublethink! His different identities have even been known to refer to each other!

The film �Identity� comes to mind

ChrisRose · Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Posts: 427 Location: Hong Kong

Just to review your original post.

"No contract signed yet."

Well without a contract alreadysigned, don't even consider just flying to HK.
You wuol only be issuded with a tourist visa. I do not know how easly / difficult or imposible it would be to transfeer to a "working holiday visa".

So the gist of your original post was, you want to know if flying out to HK, with no formal teaching qualifications, no contract or gurantee of sponsership , in esscence no legal right to work is a good idea?

I suggest you have a drink and re-read the previous post. Provided you get a written contract first, which is probably not worth sueing over, you will be taking a huge risk in Hong Kong.

In a nut shell, Hong Kong is not the place for those without overseas ELT experience and qualifications.

hkgirlo · Joined: 05 Oct 2004 Posts: 57 Location: Hong Kong

It seems people don't really know what they are talking about. Hmm. Austrailia and New Zealand both have a working holiday visa program. You should sign the contract before you leave to ensure you have a position. They may want you to sign it once you are here because the working holiday program is not intended for people who have secured a job already. So if thats the case (as the lady why you cant sign it now...and i would be firm on this) The purpose of it is to travel around and work, so I imagine thats what the whole idea of moving you around is about. But sign a contract anyways because if you are in Hong Kong already, and they havent brought you over, you are not entitled to the housing allowance, medical benifits or return airfare. If you sign once your here they may argue that you were already here... you have to watch your back with all private schools here, their focus is money more than quality education. Make sure you keep your receipt for your airfare.
That salary is normal for a kg tea cher in hk. It is enough to live on because you get your appartment for free, and believe me the deposit on an appartment is not cheap here! The only problem is that you will have a roomate and you can't choose where you live. I lived off of that salary for 2 1/2 years and sent half of it home each month. I also taught private classes and made alot more. Don't worry. The company is fine. I know the recruiter personally and you have nothing to worry about. Just make sure you know what your doing, and if you don't , then ask me!