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extoere · Joined: 23 Feb 2004 Posts: 543

Dis: " ...Just because I've seen a few movies about the Artic Circle doesn't mean I can go there and start telling them what is what."

So, presumably, you've had extensive experience in International Relations and ---- best of all ---- heavy combat experience in an urban terrorist environment.

That Cute Kid audition will very definitely not get you a contract with Jack In The Box.

cheers,
ex

distiller · Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 249

Ex, do you ever actaully respond to the content of a posting?

extoere · Joined: 23 Feb 2004 Posts: 543

Dis, do you ever post anything worthy of a rational response?

ex

distiller · Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 249

Here it is again. I'll send you a large print version if you like since you found it so hard to find. Or perhaps you just mask your lack of insight with sophmoric retorts. Oh no, that's unthinikable.

extoere · Joined: 23 Feb 2004 Posts: 543

Dis, here it is again: Do you ever post anything worthy of a rational response?

ex

distiller · Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 249

Ex, I'm sorry that you can't read between the lines. So here it is: the question is whether the American media that is consumed outside of the United States, pure drivel for the most part, is more of a comment on the tastes, or lack therof, of those countries consuming them or whether they are a fairly accurate depection of America and it culture?

It's pretty simple really and quite rationale as well. I'll try crayons next time if you can't grasp it this time around.

benno · Joined: 28 Jun 2004 Posts: 501 Location: Fake Mongolia

i get your point distiller
but its not only the comedies and the movies, its the politics and everything else.....sport (olympics where americans always make an ass of themselves), the commericals (nike, coca cola), the mcdonalds and kfc, the wal marts, etc etc, jesus just leave us alone will you!!!!!!!!!
i dont know but american movies on the whole are mostly silly, george bush is an idiot, so im hedging my bets here, but would americans be stupid, of course i cant tell you that as i dont live there, but hell i have seen enough of them to guess that they are!!!!!!! Laughing

extoere · Joined: 23 Feb 2004 Posts: 543

Dis, you sound like some newbie assistant college prof with that "the question is" stuff. Next it's gonna be "what you must understand is ...." Or how about "to put this into persPECtive ..."

So drop yer .... and grasp those crayons and fess up in triple dayglo: Do you ever post anything worthy of a rational response?

Benno: Bush is an idiot? He's a rich guy who's President, fachrissake, kickin' ass an' takin' down the names.

While Benno is .... in Harbin?

American movies? Don't watch them. Wal-Mart? Don't shop there. McDonald's? Don't eat there.

Enjoy Harbin!

ex

distiller · Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 249

The truth is that Americans are no smarter or stupider than anyone else. My point is that unfortunatrly the majority of American stuff that reaches overseas is terrible and very little of the good stuff gets out. This means that people like me have to have a standard prolouge ready when they meet people for the first time and tell them they are Americans to reassure them that they are not one of the gun totting Bush war loving McDonalds eating Wal Mart shopping fools that they take Americans for. I don't think any country doesn't have popularized crap and less than wonderful leaders, look at Howard and Blair for god sake, its just that we are much bigger and richer than most industrialized countries so we have more volume and reach for our crap.

distiller · Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 249

extoere · Joined: 23 Feb 2004 Posts: 543

Jeez, Dis, I ain't had no problems lately by just tellin' up straight up that I'm a gun-totin', rootin'-tootin' Bush lovin', McDonald's Kentucky Fried, Wal-Mart shoppin', war-lovin Yo Yo who loves all things Shrek and Schwarzenegger! Gave me half off a two hour Yankee Special Threesome at Happy Hour and ast me "Wuz it good for you too?" But then, sometimes some people just don't have no appreciation for American culture!

ex

hamel · Joined: 03 May 2004 Posts: 95

sorry for my religious cliche about the usa. i thought this thread died (i hoped so anyway)--i guess benno did hurt me a bit with his uncouth language. this is why i used to just read the esl boards and didn't post. the korean and other boards are pretty rough, but perhaps it takes a certain type of person to write the kind of stuff/words benno does--scary picture too.

i was really impressed with george orwell's down and out in paris and london. he tried to live with the poor and disenfranchised. i remember when liberals took orwell as their savior in the eighties. i just like his prose also.
cheers.

extoere · Joined: 23 Feb 2004 Posts: 543

Dis: Hey, thanks a bunch! Just what a guy needs ---- a forum to read! I would but I'm kinda busy right now watchin' "Desperate Housewives." Come to think of it, I'm busy posting on Desperate Housewives!

ex

distiller · Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 249

The thing about "Down and Out in London and Paris" is that Orwell was not just "slumming it" being the world famous author trying to "get down with the people" but really a poor slob who lived in filth and worked in terrible conditions in a slew of mind numbing jobs. I liked it but I found "Homage to Catalonia" to be much more insightful into how 1984 came about. It documents how supportive he was of the communists, took a bullet in the neck for them in combat, and how that respect slowly fell apart. It also shows his first hand expereince with the rising of the facist Franco government, which of course he was no fan of. "Down and out" though is more entertaining and does not require any delving into early twentieth century Spanish politics to get a handle on it. I still prefer "Homage", however.